Sen-2 Agri System : Champion Users and Site Managers feedback 2 nd Sen2-Agri UsersWorkshop 18-19 Nov. 2015 Brussels, Belgium
Sen-2Agri data flow
Sen-2Agri system interface
Skills requirement to run the system Different skillsare required for operating the system: Skills in computer system and networks Skills in routine processing Skills in remote sensing; Skills in field campaigns (planning, data collection, management); Skills for downstream uses of the products uses (to be tailored to user needs); Depending on the needs, skills for developing GIS tools for the analysis and exploitation of the S2Agri products; Supervision skills. These skills can be shared by different people and conversely, a single person can have different skills. Therefore, this list does not inform about the size of the team.
In which context do you plan to use the system: operational or scientific? Operational (Pilot) Is the Sen2Agri system matching your expectations? We have a system but if this will improve efficiency, accuracy that would be a big advantage Do you imagine to operate the system in your facility or would you prefer using only the products delivered by an external entity? We will use it as part of our existing system (in house) If you plan to operate the system, would you go for an automatic or rather a manual system operating? Probably with manual intervention.
What are the critical points to make this system operational according to your experience? Image management (Access, download, storage) Scale (small and large fields) climate non dependency (Drought vs excessive rain) What are the key points of attention for your institution (including the feasibility of a cloud-computing solution)? Security of results, Reliability of imagery (Landsat / Sentinel redundancy is good) Are you interested by some reprocessing capabilities? If yes, what would be the reasons for re-processing? And do you think it will be needed for all or specific products? Possibly improved algorithms, loss of archive, all products Will you expect a Sen2-Agri Graphical User Interface for products visualization? Would be nice.
Sudan Nora Khojali In which context do you plan to use the system: operational or scientific? First: Operationally, Next Steps Scientific Integrate tool for Agric- Surveys Is the Sen2Agri system matching your expectations? Yes! Do you imagine to operate the system in your facility or would you prefer using only the products delivered by an external entity? By our Institution facility If you plan to operate the system, would you go for an automatic or rather a manual system operating? Both of them according to our circumstance we will face
Sudan Nora Khojali What are the critical points to make this system operational according to your experience? - Robust Intent connection solutions = DDS -Standardization of the crops code varieties-(e.g:giews. Sudan node)-( on line helps desk) -What are the key points of attention for your institution (including the feasibility of a cloud-computing solution)? Accuracies Issues planning : Crop type map; Estimation of Agric and food production + Availability in the relevant time Are you interested by some reprocessing capabilities? If yes, what would be the reasons for re-processing? And do you think it will be needed for all or specific products? First No : latter one may be for the cloud products in the rainy season
Dokuchaev Soil Science Institute Igor Savin In which context do you plan to use the system: operational or scientific? Scientific and operational Is the Sen2Agri system matching your expectations? 80% Do you imagine to operate the system in your facility or would you prefer using only the products delivered by an external entity? Both If you plan to operate the system, would you go for an automatic or rather a manual system operating? Automatic
What are the critical points to make this system operational according to your experience? Field data availability What are the key points of attention for your institution (including the feasibility of a cloud-computing solution)? Are you interested by some reprocessing capabilities? If yes, what would be the reasons for re-processing? And do you think it will be needed for all or specific products? Yes. We are interested in open soil surface images. Will you expect a Sen2-Agri Graphical User Interface for products visualization? Yes Dokuchaev Soil Science Institute Igor Savin
RADI Miao Zhang In which context do you plan to use the system: operational or scientific? Local use case, more scientific than operational Is the Sen2Agri system matching your expectations? Beyond me expectation Do you imagine to operate the system in your facility or would you prefer using only the products delivered by an external entity? We can operate the system to produce products in our local case If you plan to operate the system, would you go for an automatic or rather a manual system operating? Automatic way but can be monitored, controlled
RADI Miao Zhang What are the critical points to make this system operational according to your experience? Continuous input What are the key points of attention for your institution (including the feasibility of a cloud-computing solution)? Reliability of the products; parallel calculation/cloud-computing Are you interested by some reprocessing capabilities? If yes, what would be the reasons for re-processing? And do you think it will be needed for all or specific products? Maybe Will you expect a Sen2-Agri Graphical User Interface for products visualization? Yes, this can leverage S2-Agri project and also improve the impact of JECAM site
CIRAD A. Bégué& V. Lebourgeois In which context do you plan to use the system: operational or scientific? Scientific Is the Sen2Agri system matching your expectations? Yes, but how customizable is it (use of VHSR data, radar data, thematic layers, stratification, object approach )? Do you imagine to operate the system in your facility or would you prefer using only the products delivered by an external entity? To operate it If you plan to operate the system, would you go for an automatic or rather a manual system operating? Both
CIRAD A. Bégué& V. Lebourgeois What are the critical points to make this system operational according to your experience? Data infrastructure (storage, backup, ) and software related issues (software installation, computing time ) What are the key points of attention for your institution (including the feasibility of a cloud-computing solution)?? Are you interested by some reprocessing capabilities? If yes, what would be the reasons for re-processing? And do you think it will be needed for all or specific products?? Will you expect a Sen2-Agri Graphical User Interface for products visualization? yes
Kamal LABBASSI Chouaib Doukkali University, Morocco 1-In which context do you plan to use the system: operational or scientific? Both scientific and operational (specific needs in consultation with our partners-managers). 2-Is the Sen2Agri system matching your expectations? Yes, useful for irrigation management and crop monitoring. 3-Do you imagine to operate the system in your facility or would you prefer using only the products delivered by an external entity? Operate the system in your facility/ disseminate to partners? 4-If you plan to operate the system, would you go for an automatic or rather a manual system operating? Manual at first, with a view to automatic operation in the future.
Kamal LABBASSI Chouaib Doukkali University, Morocco 5-What are the critical points to make this system operational according to your experience? - Format, type and origin of data (Geospatial Standards). - Interoperability with other systems. 6- What are the key points of attention for your institution (including the feasibility of a cloud-computing solution)? Development of research in the fields of geo-information and ITC. 7-Are you interested by some reprocessing capabilities? If yes, what would be the reasons for re-processing? And do you think it will be needed for all or specific products? Fusion between S1 /S2 data for enhancing and improving early-season crop classification and crop status monitoring. 8 - Will you expect a Sen2-Agri Graphical User Interface for products visualization? Yes, very practical.
INTA Diego de Abelleyra, Santiago Verón In which context do you plan to use the system: operational or scientific? Scientific at least in a first stage Is the Sen2Agri system matching your expectations? Yes. Provides automatizationfor RS frequent activities (e.g. cropland / crop type maps) and not so frequent (Atmospheric correction for S2, biophysical parameters estimation). Do you imagine to operate the system in your facility or would you prefer using only the products delivered by an external entity? Operate the system. Need help in distributed computing configuration with local infrastructure. Is it possible to customize the code for local situations? If you plan to operate the system, would you go for an automatic or rather a manual system operating? Automatic. We are moving towards automatization of image processing at INTA.
INTA Diego de Abelleyra, Santiago verón What are the critical points to make this system operational according to your experience? Time required for processing a study area, particularly for big areas (country, province level). What are the key points of attention for your institution (including the feasibility of a cloudcomputing solution)? Keep control of the processing steps. Is it possible to run remotely the system (with a particular configuration) located in a cluster? Ground truth data policy for cloud computing? Are you interested by some reprocessing capabilities? If yes, what would be the reasons for re-processing? And do you think it will be needed for all or specific products? Some times it is necessary to reprocess a product (multiple reasons). Base reflectance atmospheric correction orthorectifieddata needs to be available (not necesarilyraw data). If the system is open source, the code could be adapted for particular cases (e.g. local classification methods). Will you expect a Sen2-Agri Graphical User Interface for products visualization? Useful for non expert users. Reduced automatization?
Guido Lemoine JRC Operational use mostly, there's not too much science in NDVI in LAI (left). Complement to low resolution trends analysis to add crop specific area components to our methodology. It is still unclear whether it is a system or a toolbox. We prefer an extension of S2TBX, not a separate tool/system. In this way, there is more likelihood that it will be maintained and extended by the user community. We would run a toolbox extension as part of our internal infrastructure. Free data + open source for maximum scalability. Implementation should support both ad hoc processing (i.e. via toolbox interface) and batch processing linked with programmed downloads (e.g. OpenSearch + gpt). Proven concept for S1A.
Guido Lemoine - JRC Critical points for an operational system are spatial and temporal consistency of the products for arbitrary areas extending beyond single S2A coverage [but in the same agro-ecological zone]. This requires robust pre-processing (as part of S2TBX) in cloud masking, atmospheric correction and [post-classification] composition, including gap filling. Sentinel data will very likely end up in generic hosted computing infrastructures (Google Earth Engine, Amazon, etc.). Thus methods should be portable into those environments. The open source nature of the S2Agri toolbox facilitates that. We will think about re-processing after we have seen the processing outputs and understand upgrading requirements, if any. Maximum compatibility with S2TBX GUI should be aimed at.
FAO, Rome John Latham, Antonio Di Gregorio, Lorenzo De Simone In which context do you plan to use the system: operational or scientific? 1. Scientific to exploit system as Research User Operational synchronizing with Landsat 8 2. Operational as High level Analyst to support existing agriculture/allied departments (Operator level users) to supported all previously mentioned applications Is the Sen2Agri system matching your expectations? Yes, this will further strengthen the ongoing system development activities in FAO Do you imagine to operate the system in your facility or would you prefer using only the products delivered by an external entity? Independent operating facility at FAO, independent operational facility at FAO/ mirror site depending on plans of Google. Local, central and cloud deployment options are all feasible If you plan to operate the system, would you go for an automatic or rather a manual system operating? both for operational system for SDG targets, Agric statistics, NRM, Early Warning, DDR, Cooperative program between ESA and FAO.
FAO, Rome John Latham, Antonio Di Gregorio, Lorenzo De Simone What are the critical points to make this system operational according to your experience? 1. Synchronization with other critical satellites. 2. Integration with other Sentinels to overcome cloud issue 3. Proba-V sensor data integration to improvement, validation of crop calendars & monitoring of Crop phenology 4. Resource availability to operate system on local site What are the key points of attention for your institution (including the feasibility of a cloudcomputing solution)? 1. Global and regional and national agricultural and natural resource monitoring and reporting, improved capacity development at regional and national level 2. Local site based system deployment as cloud computing access is only suitable for operator level user which may be required for deployment at agriculture departments/academia only. Are you interested by some reprocessing capabilities? If yes, what would be the reasons for reprocessing? And do you think it will be needed for all or specific products? Yes, we need reprocessing capabilities (a) to improve the crop type mapping at subnational and local scale based on validation process & (b) Biophysical parameters like LAI, fapar need validation for major crop types of economic importance. Will you expect a Sen2-Agri Graphical User Interface for products visualization? Yes, GUI option will be an additional advantage for the operational use of the system.
SUPARCO, Pakistan Ibrar ul Hassan Akhtar & Ijaz Ahmad In which context do you plan to use the system: operational or scientific? 1. Scientific to exploit system as Research User 2. Operational as High level Analyst to support existing agriculture/allied departments (Operator level users) for food security and agriculture statistics. Is the Sen2Agri system matching your expectations? Yes, this will further strengthen the ongoing system development activities in SUPARCO Do you imagine to operate the system in your facility or would you prefer using only the products delivered by an external entity? Independent operating facility at SUPARCO, Islamabad office If you plan to operate the system, would you go for an automatic or rather a manual system operating? Automatic system will be preferred to ensure implementation of Sen2-Agri System as an operational system for crops monitoring, rapid crops damage assessments due to floods & Droughts and ensure food security in Pakistan.
SUPARCO, Pakistan Ibrar ul Hassan Akhtar & Ijaz Ahmad What are the critical points to make this system operational according to your experience? 1. Integration with microwave Sentinel1 satellite data to overcome the cloud issues in Monsoon. 2. Proba-V sensor data integration to establish the local crop calendars & Crop phenology for efficient/effective data acquisition plans. 3. Resource availability to operate system on local site What are the key points of attention for your institution (including the feasibility of a cloudcomputing solution)? 1. Local site based system deployment as cloud computing access is only suitable for operator level user which may be required for deployment at agriculture departments/academia only. 2. Capacity building for the customization of the system Are you interested by some reprocessing capabilities? If yes, what would be the reasons for reprocessing? And do you think it will be needed for all or specific products? Yes, we need reprocessing capabilities (a) to improve the crop type mapping at subnational and local scale based on validation process & (b) Biophysical parameters like LAI, fapar need validation for major crop types of economic importance. Will you expect a Sen2-Agri Graphical User Interface for products visualization? Yes, GUI option will be an additional advantage for the operational use of the system.
USDA/ARS Andrew French In which context do you plan to use the system: operational or scientific? Scientific research and demonstration Is the Sen2Agri system matching your expectations? No experience yet. Do you imagine to operate the system in your facility or would you prefer using only the products delivered by an external entity? Yes, self-sufficiency desirable. If you plan to operate the system, would you go for an automatic or rather a manual system operating? Automated system preferred.
ICRISAT P.C.S. Traore In which context do you plan to use the system: operational or scientific? Both: discovery level for advisory services in Koutiala district, and operational support for governmental agricultural statistics (national scale) Is the Sen2Agri system matching your expectations? Partially crop-dependent LAI response, crop type determination based on previous year s data would be welcome; possible tradeoffs between bandwidth and field data collection Do you imagine to operate the system in your facility or would you prefer using only the products delivered by an external entity? Both in situ and cloud based depends on how well the national team will be able to control bandwidth usage on site If you plan to operate the system, would you go for an automatic or rather a manual system operating? Both automatic for statistics department, with manual option in collaboration with research institutions
ICRISAT P.C.S. Traore What are the critical points to make this system operational according to your experience? Adequate level of proximal backstopping in use of the system What are the key points of attention for your institution (including the feasibility of a cloud-computing solution)? Building trust regarding ownership of cloud-based data Are you interested by some reprocessing capabilities? If yes, what would be the reasons for re-processing? And do you think it will be needed for all or specific products? Yes crop-specific LAI and phenology metrics Will you expect a Sen2-Agri Graphical User Interface for products visualization? yes
Manobi Madieye In which context do you plan to use the system: operational or scientific? As we partner with scientific faculties, our experimentation would be an action-research. But we plan to put an emphasis on operational test of the system since our aim is to transform all this data into usable products for crop management. Is the Sen2Agri system matching your expectations? Not tested yet Do you imagine to operate the system in your facility or would you prefer using only the products delivered by an external entity? In our own facility; Manobi already develops mobile applications and server incorporating remote sensing data. So we already have the structure and know-how to operate this system. If you plan to operate the system, would you go for an automatic or rather a manual system operating? Automated system preferred. Solutions we already developed provide automated gateway between server collecting RS data and software processing that data and transforming it into intermediate data. Similar functioning would be used within this project, where an automated use with predefined expected contents would be the way to go.
Manobi Madieye What are the critical points to make this system operational according to your experience? Test during the demonstration phase the possibility to use this data for concrete purposes such as index insurance, agronomic advice etc. Are you interested by some reprocessing capabilities? If yes, what would be the reasons for re-processing? And do you think it will be needed for all or specific products? Depending on the use of the data reprocessing might be needed to adjust the outputs to the objectives. Will you expect a Sen2-Agri Graphical User Interface for products visualization? Yes
World Food Program Rogerio Bonifacio In which context do you plan to use the system: operational or scientific? Operational humanitarian applications. Some focused applied research may be undertaken Is the Sen2Agri system matching your expectations? Yes (but new to this type of data) Do you imagine to operate the system in your facility or would you prefer using only the products delivered by an external entity? TBD. External products in early stages, but strong interest in HQ-level in situ operations. WFP Regional Bureaus (if using) limited to delivered products If you plan to operate the system, would you go for an automatic or rather a manual system operating? Initially automatic, but likely to experiment manual system operation at some stage
World Food Program Rogerio Bonifacio What are the critical points to make this system operational according to your experience? Field data acquisition poses problems due to i) mandate, ii) major interest lies in areas of restricted access or government capacity What are the key points of attention for your institution (including the feasibility of a cloud-computing solution)? Distributed geographical scope of WFP ROIs. Cloud relevant for non-hq Are you interested by some reprocessing capabilities? If yes, what would be the reasons for re-processing? And do you think it will be needed for all or specific products? For historical data? Not an immediate priority, but could prove relevant. 3 to 6 month lookbacks are operationally very important Will you expect a Sen2-Agri Graphical User Interface for products visualization? If it offers features that cannot be found in available software