Binghamton Examining Board of Electricians Inter-Department Correspondence

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Date: 02 January 2013 Subject: Minutes of Meeting of 02 January 2013 Copies: Mayor Ryan, Corporation Counsel, Johnson City & Endicott Electric Boards, Luke Day, and File The meeting of the Examining Board of Electricians was held on 02 January 2013 and called to order at 10:30 AM. Items discussed: 1) Journeyman and Master Electrician s Test will be given on Saturday, 19 January 2013. 2) Meeting on Friday, 18 January 2013 with the City Clerk to discuss moving the entire operation for licensing journeyman and master electrician s from the City Clerk s office up to Building and Construction. 3) There are discussions between Johnson City, Endicott, and Binghamton about having only one electrical license for all 3 municipalities. This idea was based upon current discussions between municipalities in regards to the joint board of examining plumbers There being no further business before this Board, the meeting was adjourned at 11:00 AM. The next meeting is scheduled for Wednesday, 06 Feb 2013 at 10:30 AM. Respectfully Submitted,

Date: 06 February 2013 From: Thomas W Giblin Jr Subject: Minutes of Meeting of 06 February 2013 Copies: Mayor Ryan, Corporation Counsel, Johnson City & Endicott Electric Boards, Luke Day, and File The meeting of the Examining Board of Electricians was held on 06 February 2013 and called to order x 1) Results of 18 January 2013 master and journeyman electricians tests were discussed. 2) Gary Nitte applied for a Class C Master Electrician s license. He was granted one in 2011. He will be granted another one. 3) Phil Nelson from Nelson s Lamplighters has offered to host the electrical test. Electrical Board says that we already have a testing site. 4) Next electrical test will be on Saturday, 18 May 2003. Applications must be received by Monday, 01 April 2013. 5) The COB has a website that gives the names and phone numbers of all master electrician s in the COB from September, 2011. Discussion followed concerning how much information we can put on the website. We would like the website updated, and only list the names and businesses of those master electrician s who want their names or businesses listed on the site. The next meeting is scheduled for 06 Mar 2013 at 10:30 AM. There being no further business before this Board, the meeting was adjourned at 11:30 AM.

Date: 06 March 2013 From: Thomas W Giblin Jr. Subject: Minutes of Meeting of 06 March 2013 Copies: Mayor Ryan, Corp. Counsel, Johnson City & Endicott Electric Boards, Luke Day, and File The meeting of the Examining Board of Electricians was held on 06 March 2013 and called to order 1) The next test date for the electrician s exam for journeyman and master candidates is Saturday, 18 May 2013. Applications are all due by 01 April 2013. Any applications submitted after that date will be held until the next test date of 21 September 2013. This information has been posted on COB website and on all applications. 2) I will contact the electrical boards of Johnson City and Endicott and make them aware of when applications are due and the test date. 3) An application by Erik Silvernail has been submitted to obtain a Journeyman Class A License. Much discussion followed. There was a motion to table this application until we receive more information concerning his Oneonta Master Electrician s License. 4) Gary Nitte withdrew his Class C Master Electrician License request because he did not get the job. Granted. The next meeting is scheduled for 03 April 2013 at 10:30 AM. There being no further business before this Board, the meeting was adjourned at 11:15 AM.

Date: 10 April 2013 From: Thomas W Giblin Jr. Subject: Minutes of Meeting of 10 April 2013 Copies: Mayor Ryan, Corporation Counsel, Johnson City & Endicott Electric Boards, Luke Day, and File The meeting of the Examining Board of Electricians was held on 10 April 2013 and called to order Items Discussed 1) Minutes of the 06 March 2013 meeting were read and approved. 2) The qualifications of the candidates for the Journeyman and Master Electrician s test that will be given on 18 May were discussed. Approved to take the Journeyman s test were: James Blackwell, Erik Nelson, Timothy Isham, Jeffrey Smallze, John Perry, Eric Huff, Robert Angel, Mark Beebe, and Robert Fowler. Erik Silvernail was not approved to take the Journeyman s test because we needed more substantiated information on the hours that he had worked. Jimmy Branna was not approved to take the Master s test because (1) he did not have a master s license from any other municipality and (2) he is not a partner in the firm that he is working for. 3) Discussion on having the electrical inspector begin inspecting residences and the fees to charge. 4) Discussion on reciprocity of electrical licenses with Syracuse was discussed. Syracuse has stated that they are not reciprocal with anybody, but if we have a signed agreement by the Mayors of both cities, they will honor that agreement. I requested that information from Corporation Counsel, and was told that they did not have a signed copy. 5) Reciprocity with Oneonta was also discussed. The Board brought up the fact that the licensing procedures between the two cities are different. Oneonta has a Master Electrician s License (Residential) and no Journeyman Electrician s License. It was pointed out that one of the qualifications for our Master Electrician s License was that the person had to have a Journeyman Electrician s License for two years, after having worked for 9000 hours under the tutelage of a journeyman electrician. It was agreed that anybody having a City of Oneonta Master Electrician s

License would be issued a Class C Master s License (good for one year and one job), but no journeyman s license. 6) Our department was planning on taking over licensing the plumbers and electricians from the City Clerk. However, there are some technical issues that have to be addressed, so for the time being, the City Clerk s office will continue to license both the plumbers and the electricians. The next meeting is scheduled for 01 May 2013 at 10:30 AM. There being no further business before this Board, the meeting was adjourned at 11:45 AM.

Date: 01 May 2013 From: Thomas W Giblin Jr. Subject: Minutes of Meeting of 01 May 2013 Copies: Mayor Ryan, Corporation Counsel, Johnson City & Endicott Electric Boards, Luke Day, and File The meeting of the Examining Board of Electricians was held on 01 May 2013 and called to order at 10:45 AM. 1) Minutes of 10 Apr 2013 Meeting were read and accepted. 2) David Hall was given a Master A Electrician s License for 2013 to 2014. From 2012 to 2013, he had a Master B Electrician s License. From 2011 to 2012, he had a Master C Electrician s License. The Board is directing me to find out how these events occurred. 3) Erik Silvernail would like to know, if he takes a Prometrics electrical exam by another municipality, will we reciprocate licensing. The answer is that the written test must be the same one that we give At last count, Prometrics gave at least 4 different electrical journeyman tests, including: our COB Journeyman Electrical Test, residential work, telephone work, and cable TV work. Additionally, we have a practical portion on the test, and require that he pass that portion, as well. 4) The Electrical Board voted that, Electrical Board Member, is to be in attendance when I give the practical portion of the test. 5) Andy Parker, from Prometrics has left the company. Our new contact person is Wendy Bowen. The next meeting is scheduled for 05 Jun 2013 at 10:30 AM. There being no further business before this Board, the meeting was adjourned at 11:45 AM.

Date: 05 Jun 2013 From: Thomas W Giblin Jr. Subject: Minutes of Meeting of 05 Jun 2013 Copies: Mayor Ryan, Corporation Counsel, Johnson City & Endicott Electric Boards, Luke Day, and File The meeting of the Examining Board of Electricians was held on 05 Jun 2013 and called to order 1) Minutes of 01 May 2013 Meeting were read and accepted. 2) Reviewed test scores of electrical test that was given on 18 May 2013. 3) Prometrics has confirmed that we have the following 2014 test dates: 18 January, 17 May, 20 September 4) I read the letter we received from the City of Oneonta, dated 29 Apr 2013, that our City Clerk received 30 Apr, and I received after our 1 May Electrical Board Meeting at the 05 Jun Electrical Board Meeting. 5) Our Electrical Board has suggested that (1) their Electrical Board send correspondence directly to our Electrical Board, rather than through the City Clerk, so that we receive their correspondence in a timely fashion, and (2) our meetings are on the first Wednesday of the month, so that they are aware of when we meet. A letter will be sent to them regarding this. 6) Our Electrical Board also maintains that the reciprocity agreement with Oneonta is not valid because (1) the Mayors of both municipalities did not sign the agreement, (2) Oneonta does not have a Journeyman Electrician classification, and (3) the standards by which Oneonta measures their Master Electricians is not to the same or of higher standards as maintained by the COB. I am to meet with the City Attorneys to discuss this matter. The next meeting is scheduled for 03 Jul 2013 at 10:30 AM. There being no further business before this Board, the meeting was adjourned at 11:00 AM.

Date: 03 Jul 2013 From: Thomas W Giblin Jr Subject: Minutes of Meeting of 03 Jul 2013 Copies: Mayor Ryan, Corporation Counsel, Johnson City & Endicott Electric Boards,, Luke Day,, and File The meeting of the Examining Board of Electricians was held on 05 Jun 2013 and called to order 1) Minutes of 05 Jun 2013 Meeting were read and accepted. 2) Last month,, granted a Master C license to Johnny Riling and a Journeyman B License to Mike Delahanty for the CVS job on Pennsylvania Ave. They both were licensed in other states. 3) An Orange County licensed Master Electrician called and inquired about doing work in the Binghamton, NY area. explained the difference between the Master A and C licenses. If he wants to do more than one job in our area, he will have to take and pass the COB Master Electrician s test in September. 4) Regarding reciprocity with Oneonta, our Electrical Board maintains that the standards are different, and the Mayors of both cities have not signed the agreement, and therefore, the agreement is not valid. Ken Frank, COB Attorney, states that in regard to the reciprocity agreement with Oneonta, an action made by Council cannot be changed or abrogated by the Board, except or unless that authority was specifically assigned to the Board by Council action, i.e. written into the reciprocity ordinance. The Electrical Board would like to draft correspondence to City Council to rescind reciprocity with Oneonta. 5) Erik Silvernail s application to take Journeyman s Electrical Exam on 21 September 2013 was approved. 6) Judy Coderre has requested that from now on, she will merely post the Electrical Board minutes on the COB website, to save time and money. 7) and would like to have the Electrical Board Minutes e-mailed to them. 8) The Electrical Board would like to amend the COB ordinance so that the Electrical Inspector for the COB will be able to inspect electrical work and charge market rates.

The next meeting is scheduled for 07 Aug 2013 at 10:30 AM. There being no further business before this Board, the meeting was adjourned at 11:30 AM.

Date: 04 Sep 2013 From: Thomas W Giblin Jr Subject: Minutes of Meeting of 04 Sep 2013 Copies: Mayor Ryan, Corporation Counsel, Johnson City & Endicott Electric Boards,, Luke Day,, and File The meeting of the Examining Board of Electricians was held on 04 Sep 2013 and called to order 1) Minutes of 03 Jul 2013 Meeting were read and accepted. 2) Discussion of licensing with City of Oneonta was discussed. 3) Fees for residential inspection by COB Electrical Inspector is in progress 4) The following applicants were approved to take the electrical test on 21 Sep 2013: Master s Test Jason Kristof Journeyman s Test (1) Robert Angel, (2) Mark Beebe, (3) Jeramie Bell, (4) Michael Davis, (5) Josh Harrington, (6) John Perry, (7) Erik Silvernail The next meeting is scheduled for 02 Oct 2013 at 10:30 AM. There being no further business before this Board, the meeting was adjourned at 11:30 AM.

Date: 02 Oct 2013 From: Thomas W Giblin Jr Subject: Minutes of Meeting of 02 Oct 2013 Copies: Mayor Ryan, Corporation Counsel, Johnson City & Endicott Electric Boards,, Luke Day,, and File The meeting of the Examining Board of Electricians was held on 02 Oct 2013 and called to order 1) Minutes of 04 Sep 2013 Meeting were read and accepted. 2) Test scores for the Master and Journeyman Electrician Tests were shown to the members. 3) Mark Williams from Clifton Park, NY wants a Class C Master Electrician s License to perform 2 jobs in the COB. He currently has a master electrician s license from Greene County, NY and Troy, NY. Our laws state that a Master C Electrician can only pull one permit for one job for one year. Our attorney states that Mark Williams has to follow our laws. Therefore, he has to sub out the other job, or take our Master s test and pass it. The next meeting is scheduled for 06 Nov 2013 at 10:30 AM. There being no further business before this Board, the meeting was adjourned at 11:30 AM.

Date: 06 Nov 2013 From: Thomas W Giblin Jr Subject: Minutes of Meeting of 06 Nov 2013 Copies: Mayor Ryan, Corporation Counsel, Johnson City & Endicott Electric Boards,, Luke Day,, and File The meeting of the Examining Board of Electricians was held on 06 Nov 2013 and called to order 1) Minutes of 02 Oct 2013 meeting was read and accepted. 2) Two applications to take journeyman test on 18 Jan 2014 by Erik Nelson and Brandon Vojtisek were accepted. Erik Nelson has already passed the practical test, he just needs to pass the written test. Brandon Vojtisek was approved for the Sep 2013 test, but wrote a letter asking to take the test in Jan 2014, which was approved. The next meeting is scheduled for 04 Dec 2013 at 10:30 AM. There being no further business before this Board, the meeting was adjourned at 10:45 AM.

Date: 04 Dec 2013 From: Thomas W Giblin Jr Subject: Minutes of Meeting of 04 Dec 2013 Copies: Mayor Ryan, Corporation Counsel, Johnson City & Endicott Electric Boards,, Luke Day,, and File The meeting of the Examining Board of Electricians was held on 04 Dec 2013 and called to order 1) Minutes of 06 Nov 2013 Meeting were read and accepted. 2) The following people were approved to take the Journeyman Electrical Test on Saturday, 18 January 2013: (1) Erik Nelson, (2) Brandon Vojtisek, (3) Shawn Braman, (4) Nathan W. Derr, (5) Richard H. Redpath, (6) Richard Sicignano, (7) Alex Krizanek, (8) Justin DiRose, and (9) Caleb Nelson. 3) The following people were approved to take the Master Electrical Test on Saturday, 18 January 2013: (1) Jason Kristof, (2) Robert E. Steinberg, and (3) Matthew Moshier. The next meeting is scheduled for 08 Jan 2014 at 10:30 AM. There being no further business before this Board, the meeting was adjourned at 11:00 AM.