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1 TREASURE VALLEY INTERGROUP OCTOBER 2004 Telephone: Web: index.htm IN THIS ISSUE: TVICO Financials TVICO Mgmt Reports TVICO Trustees Report Oldtimerisms Intergroup Report District 3 Reports District 4 Report District 8 Report Calendar of Business Meetings Where to send 7th Traditions Events Page Thank You / Subscription Form Meeting Announcements New open AA Meeting Tuesday at 10:30am Meridian, 2511 W Cherry Lane (Christian Church) New Time 8:00pm, Tuesday A Vision For You, 23rd & Woodlawn Coming Events October 15, 16, 17 October 15, 16, 17 November 8 November November February 10-13, 2005 June 30 - July 3, 2005 Woman To Woman Spiritual Retreat ("Happy, Joyous and Free") McCall, ID Rocky Mountain 19th AnnualRound-up Salt Lake City, UT 7th Annual Gratitude Dinner District 5 Maple Grove Grange 43rd Annual Hawaii Convention Honolulu, Hawaii By Faith and By Works 38th Ann. Las Vegas Roundup Sober Fun In The Sun 41st International AA Women s Conference Las Vegas, NV International Convention Lets Celebrate! Toronto, Canada Of Mountains and Molehills RECENTLY I attended an AA convention. All in all it was mighty worthwhile. After the convention, I went over to the local clubhouse in that town and ran into John----I had met John several times and had heard him talk at meetings. He has some eight years of AA sobriety behind him. I knew him to be most humble, a willing worker with complete serenity, and a good sense of humor. His story had revealed him as a "low bottom" drinker. When I asked him why I hadn't seen him at the convention, his face took on a wry look and, speaking slowly in deep thought, this was his answer. "I don't go to conventions because I don't believe in them. I feel that they eventually will be the ruination of AA." "Why?" I asked. "Because organization in AA coupled with these professional AA speakers is trying to compete with organized religion and when AA tries to do that, AA will fail with alcoholics the same as religion previously failed with them," he said. "I know you are going to tell me that AA does not profess to teach religion, but when these pro speakers talk, they preach spiritualism as a must, just like the church preaches the gospel, and in my book they are both in the same boat." I answered him in this way. "John, I am afraid you have lost the point of these conventions. The spirit and not the speeches are the main consideration. The spirit of a crowd of alkies getting together, enjoying each other's company and having a good time, sober. Besides, a convention affords small groups the opportunity of hearing new speakers and learning how other groups conduct their meetings." John replied, "I'll grant you all that is good, but how about my main argument, these professional AA speakers with their spiritualistic, bombastic speeches?" I said, "I am afraid you are making a mountain out of a mole hill." I left John then, and drove back to my home. But I kept thinking of John and what he had said. There was some basis of fact to his remarks. It continued to seep in. First, by professional AA speakers, I know what he meant. There is a type of AA member, usually an older member with years of AA behind him who, while he doesn't admit it or possibly recognize it, considers himself an "indispensable" on any speaking program. He doesn't get paid in money, but in selfesteem. It inflates his ego to get up and talk and while he professes to be humble by not asking to talk, still he sees to it that if he doesn't get on any particular program, at least one of his disciples does, so the great indispensable talks vicariously. He cites having had one or several spiritual experiences. I believe he means spiritual awakenings. What has happened is that God has given us the power to live again and the power to carry the message. It is unnecessary and unbecoming for us to become evangelists. These select AA speakers speak in platitudes and generalities, never bothering to go much into detail. They speak "sweet music" in a serious vein, never seeming to remember our Thirteenth Step of, "Not taking yourself too darn seriously, and not forgetting your sense of humor." They would have you believe that by following the AA program everything will be all right, but we find we still have our troubles, only we are able to face them with knowledge and power. They have formed a clique, a sort of mutual admiration society, and refer to each other as my pal, Bill, the last speaker, or my pal, George, the next speaker. To the AA pro speaker: you are basically a fine AA carrying the message, but you are speaking subjectively and not objectively. Step aside, insist on it, and be sincere in doing it. You are the shepherd or one of them of your group. Let the newer members talk. You will be surprised how many of them can and have a message to deliver if you will only encourage them to do so. The longer you are away from your last drink, the less able you are to reach the new member. It is my belief that a spiritual awakening cannot be taught or learned. It is something that comes from within, from the heart or soul, like love. Old John set me to thinking and this is what I came up with. I pass it on to you for what it is worth. T. N. Santa Fe, New Mexico Copyright The AA Grapevine, Inc. (August 1953). Reprinted with permission

2 1. It's not old behavior if I'm still doing it. 2. If you're looking to have an image in AA, look around at the meetings you go to and look at who you're trying to impress. 3. An alcoholic is a person who wants to be held while he's isolating. 4. The idea that alcoholics, drug addicts, sex addicts, overeaters, smokers, etc, etc, should all just go to AA meetings because a disease, is a disease, is a disease was started by a treatment center that only had one van. 5. If drinking is interfering with your work, you're probably a heavy drinker. If work is interfering with your drinking, you're probably an alcoholic. 6. I often obsessively pursue feeling good, no matter how bad it makes me feel. 7. When I was new, I didn't think I had any obsessions until I started thinking about it. Then it was all I could think about. "HERD" AROUND THE ROOMS 8. How come if alcohol kills millions of brain cells, it never killed the ones that made me want to drink? 9. If you want to quit drinking, you are going to have to quit drinking. 10. I would rather go through life sober, believing I am an alcoholic, than go through life drunk, trying to convince myself that I am not analcoholic. 11. Resentments are like stray cats: if you don't feed them, they'll go away. 12. The difference between a problem drinker and an Alcoholic is that: A. When alcohol is taken away from the problem drinker, the problem goes away. B. When alcohol is taken away from the Alcoholic, the problem begins. 13. I can't do His will my way. 14. The good news is you get your emotions back; the bad news is you get your emotions back. Anonymous TVICO PROFIT & LOSS TVICO DONATIONS - September INCOME August Donor Jar $24.00 Gross Sales $3, Group Donations $2, Member Donations $ TOTAL INCOME $5, EXPENSES Uncategorized $ Office Expense $ Petty Cash $14.21 Shipping & Handling $(5.95) Taxes $ Wages $2, Wages - Taxes $(45.28) TOTAL EXPENSES $3, INFLOWS Donor Jar $24.00 Group Donations $13.00 Ding-a Lings $60.00 District 8 $99.25 Eagle Friday Nite $25.00 Into Action $ Lunch Bunch $ Meridian Women's Group $23.00 New Beginings $ Serenity Seekers $ Speakeasy Group $ T.V. Intergroup Council $ Total Group Donations $2, Member Donations $ OVERALL TOTAL $2, TOTAL DONATIONS $2, <!--[if!supportemptyparas]--> Central Office Report Things are good in the Central Office with group contributions. We really appreciate the support of the groups and districts. Sales, however, were sluggish to other months; but we re sure they ll pick up. We feel we will have good sales at the Fall Assembly in Idaho Falls Oct 1-3. After that sales should continue with the holiday season coming up. We will have a lot of nice AA gift items for you to choose from at the Central Office. So drop up and buy your Christmas gift items for friends and loved ones in the fellowship-including AA Xmas cards. A special thanks to the Central Office volunteers in September Jim L., Kevin W., Donna H., Erika T., Julie Ann, Kelley M., Rick E., Jeff S., Dan L., and Dwight P. Please remember the Central Office expenses go on anew each month so we continue to need group & District 7th Tradition support. So we thank you in advance for your support during the month of October. Yours and Love and Service Carl O TVICO BOARD MEETING - September 6, 2004 H & I Needs Your Old

3 Opened at 7:05pm Serenity Prayer Present: Kathie, Bill, Kerry and Carl Minutes from August meeting not available Carl: Finances and bills paid except Workman s Comp. ($22.52) Bank balance: $2, Cash in till: $ Total: $3, Grapevines! Old Grapevines are needed for correctional facilities. Please bring your old copies to the Central Office at 1524 Vista Ave., Rome #10, Boise, Idaho, between 10 AM and 6 PM; Monday-Friday. Thank You Tony S. H & I Correction on salary July salaries: $ and July treasurers report accepted New Computer: being programmed. Will update meeting list. 60 T-shirts for Fall Assembly have been ordered. Report accepted We have now made arrangements to carry stuff down for members who need assistance. Closed at 7:32pm OLD TIMERISMS EDITOR S APOLOGY: Somehow, in the rush of putting together last month s newsletter, I dropped the report from District 4. For this I am very sorry and will try not to mess up like that again. With love and service, Rick P 1. It's not old behavior if I'm still doing it. 2. If you're looking to have an image in AA, look around at the meetings you go to and take a look at whom you're trying to impress. 3. An alcoholic is a person who wants to be held while he's isolating. 4. Sobriety is the leading cause of relapse. 5. A treatment center is where you go and pay $15,000 to find out that AA meetings are free. 6. The idea that alcoholics, drug addicts, sex addicts, overeaters, smokers, etc, etc, should all just go to AA Meetings because a disease, is a disease, is a disease...was started by a treatment center that only had one van. 7. This is a 'One Day at a Time' program. If you are clean and sober today, you are tied for first place in AA. 8. If drinking is interfering with your work, you're probably a heavy drinker. If work is interfering with your drinking, you're probably an alcoholic. 9. I often obsessively pursue feeling good, no matter how bad it makes me feel. 10. When I was new, I didn't think I had any obsessions until I started thinking about it. Then it was all I could think about. 11. How come if alcohol kills millions of brain cells, it never killed the ones that made me want to drink? 12. From a newcomer reading the 'Promises' for the first time: "We will comprehend the word cemetery and we will know peace." 13. If God were small enough to be understood, He wouldn't be big enough to be God! 14. If you want to quit drinking, you are going to have to quit drinking. 15. Newcomer: How do I know how many meetings I should attend each week? Old-timer: Gradually cut back until you get drunk. Then you'll know. 16. I would rather go through life sober, believing I am an alcoholic, than go through life drunk, trying to convince myself that I am not an alcoholic. 17. Resentments are like stray cats: if you don't feed them, they'll go away. 18. The difference between a problem drinker and an Alcoholic is that: A. When alcohol is taken away from the problem drinker, the problem goes away. B. When alcohol is taken away from the Alcoholic, the problem begins. 19. Before I came into AA, I was dead, but I did not know enough to lay down. 20. I drank when I was happy. I drank when I was unhappy. Actually, I am a reason to drink. 21. You don't have to be sick to want to get well. But if you don't want to get well, you ARE sick. 22. I can't do His will my way. 23. In order to change the way we feel we need to change the way we act. There is only one way to coast, and that is down hill. 24. The good news is you get your emotions back; the bad news is you get your emotions back. 25. All we ask is that you completely change your attitude as soon as possible. 26. I have held many things in my hands, and I have lost them all; but whatever I have placed in God's hands, that I still possess. 27. Without memory, there is no healing. Without forgiveness, there is no future. Intergroup Proposed Meeting Minutes Sept. 9, 2004 Meeting at Perkin s Restaurant in Caldwell. 7 members participated: Richard H., Rick P., Gary C., Bill H., Mike R. John F., Darel P. Secretary report; (Debbie S.) Mike R. read August minutes in Debbie's absence. Approved as read.

4 Treasure Report; (Mike R.) Treasure report accepted * See financial notes. Newsletter report; (Rick) Newsletter (Slippery When Wet) has not been mailed out yet. Group that volunteered to fold and assemble SWW for mailing failed to show up. Rick asked if anyone knew of a group or someone that could volunteer to fold and assemble SWW for September and for next month (Oct.)? It was also asked if Central Office Volunteers could complete SWW in the absence of SWW volunteers? Intergroup Trustees Report; (Bill H.) All bills are paid. (*See CO financial report in SWW.) CO have a new computer via donation and a volunteer to program it. CO is updating meeting schedule. Issue about CO staff carrying merchandise down stairs for customers has been addressed. It will be done for those who need assistance. Answering Service; (Gary C) 12th step list is current and copies are available at CO. The 12th step list desperately needs Spanish speaking people. Dates open for groups to cover hotline are, 3rd Wednesday, 3rd 4th and 5th Monday, 2nd Sunday, 3rd 4th and 5th Tue. Groups needed to volunteer for the open dates please. Gary will be stepping down in December, new Answering service chair will be person needed. CPC/PI (Darel P.) Volunteers for the CPC/PI committee needed. OLD BUSINESS; Open positions at intergroup need to be filled Entertainment, H&I, Assistant Chair) Job descriptions from each position holder are needed to be turned in to John. These descriptions will assist the next position holder more easily transition into his/her new position. Super Bowl party. It was voted on and accepted that Intergoup will put on a Super Bowl party. Details to be released soon! Kids Christmas Party. Gary asked if this was an Intergroup function?. It was noted that the Kids Christmas party is not an intergroup function. Gary stated that his group was interested in putting on this event. Halloween Dance. No entertainment person to plan this event. The All 12th Step Club in Caldwell may be welcome to cosponsor a function with Intergroup?. NEW BUSINESS; Mike R. Volunteered to put on the New Years Solution event this year. Rick P. noted that we need a web master. Richard H. was nominated for this position and unanimously elected. Owner of Central Office building is waiting to hear from CO or CO Trustee to propose or listen to a proposed new lease agreement. John mentioned the need for a seminar about how to handle situations that may arise at meetings. i.e. "a member stating they are suicidal". Meeting adjourned *INTERGROUP FINANCIAL STATEMENT: Beginning Balance: $ Income: Lefty Proceeds $ th Tradition $9.45 Donation W Boise Group $65.00 Subtotal: $1, Expenses: Lefty Expenses -$27.71 TVICO Donation -$ Ending Balance $ Lefty Calahan 2004 Income: $ Expenses: Seed money -$ Cosco food -$ Winco-food -$29.79 Dollar Tree -$6.36 Paul (gas, drink, storage) -$27.71 Parks Dept -$85.00 Total Expense -$ Sub Total $ T-Shirt Income $ Total Proceeds $ MINUTES FOR DISTRICT 3

5 September 2004 Meeting opened with John V leading everyone with the Serenity Prayer. Jim M read the 12 traditions. Present : Steve H: Secretary--district 3 Janel S: Live and Let Live--gsr Jim Mc: Twilight Zone--gsr/Alternate DCM John V: district 3 DCM Keith T: West Boise Group-gsr Mark A: Trustee Karen F: Treasurer Anne: Rule 62 John L: Survivors Gary: Midtown Laurel: Freedom Group & Friday Nite 12x12 Treasurer Report: Beginning bal: $125 Incoming: $184 Outgoing: $44 End. Bal: $265 DCM report: John went to Area 18 business mtg on 15th of August in Twin Falls; Reported that AA in US and Canada are not self-supporting but that funds from literature sales are used to keep fellowship going. EMPHASIS at meeting is on "PASSING THE BASKET" for money and not court cards; Grapevine mag. has 575 subscriptions in Area 18; Area about $14,000; John passed on miscellaneous info on Fall Assembly, GSO 2004 Final Report, Idaho Area 18 GSR Manual. Will be reimbursed later for gas for his trip. Intergroup report: no report CPC/PI report: no report. H & I report: no report. Laurel agreed to be our H & I rep. Grapevine report: no report Alt DCM/activities: Jim reported that 7th Tradition workshop in August was lightly attended but informative; District 3 campout had two dozen or so campers, with lots of fun and great food for weekend. Trustee report: Mark missed the last meeting, but will attend next one. Glad to be of service. Central Office and Intergroup are getting along better(that's nice of them). Old Business: none New Business: A fellow member requested to be reimbursed for food expense at the campout, was voted on and approved 7-2, for $85 refund. GROUP REPORTS Live & Let Live(23rd st/woodlawn; Sun 7:30pm; open; non-smoke; Janel ) All is good with the group. Currently reading the stories in the Big Book. Changes in coffee maker and green card signer positions. GSR will be attending Fall Assembly. Had home-group members celebrate 2, 5, and 14 years of sobriety in August. Twighlite Zone(23rd/Woodlawn; Thu. 800 pm; open; no smoke; Jim Mc) Attendance is up as of late to people. West Boise Group(8055 Ustick Ad; M-S 8:00 pm; open; no smoke; Keith T) Donations:5% GSO; 5% Area 18; 5% Dist 3; 5% Intergroup; 20% Grapevine mag; 20% H&I; 20% CPC/.PI; 20% Area 18 Archives. A Newcomer Packet has been completed at a group cost of about $1.50 each. CPC/PI committee has placed a small AA classified ad in the Statesman and Boise Weekly--the ad runs once a week in each rag. GSA will be attending Fall Assembly. GSA will also attend the 9th Annual National Archive Workshop in Nashville, TN later this month. Wet Ones(Clear Creek Lodge, Idaho City; Friday 730 pm; Bud J ) Hope to be back in the Medical Clinic in October. Friday Nite 12x12(Grapevine Club; Friday 8-9 pm; Michael p ) Michael is new GSR; attendance recently has been good Freedom Group(Grapevine Club; Saturday 8-9 pm; Dana) Lots of attendance recently. Survivors(Grapevine Club; M-F 53O-63Opm; John L ) "We survive", attendance is fair to good Living Today( Alano Club; M-F 53O-63Opm) Group has no GSR currently District #4 Business Meeting September 11, 2004 DCM: Ralayne opened the meeting at 4:15 pm with a moment of silence and the Serenity Prayer Declaration of Unity was read Secretary: Margie, Minutes accepted as mailed, motioned and seconded, all in favor. Treasurer: Janet, Please see the enclosed report. Group GSR Reports ATTENTION ALL GSR s THE PAGE INCLUDED IN EACH MAILING IS FOR YOUR GROUP INFORMATION. WE IN THE DISTRICT WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU AND YOUR GROUP. PLEASE SEND IN YOUR GROUPS INFORMATION IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO ATTEND THE DIST. 4 BUSINESS MEETING HELD ON THE SECOND SATURDAY OF EACH MONTH. DIST 4 SECRETARY P O BOX 1408 CALDWELL, ID 83606

6 Please make report for your group in writing. Thanks! Mike A: Sunday Morning Pioneer: No new home group members. No distributions made. We continue to have about people showing u each week for our meetings. Tonight we are hosting the Dist. 4 Birthday dinner and it will be quite a grand affair as we have 2 BBQ beef brisquets for BBQ sandwiches, pork & beans and have purchased many quality raffle gifts as our tradition. Respectfully submitted in love and service. Mik A. Margie W.: Friday Night Newcomers: No splits this month. We had to pay our insurance Bond of $ for the year and that wiped us out. Continuing to hold our monthly business meetings. Last months speaker was Jerold. Many thanks to him for stepping up at the last minute. What a great story. He really stuck to recovery. This month s speaker is a surprise, as I don t know who it is yet. Remember the last Friday of every month is our potluck/speaker meeting. Potluck at 7pm and our speaker at 8pm. Thanks for allowing me to serve. Margie W. Stephanie C.: Young Peoples Vision: Splits this month were $10.00 to Dist. 4, $10.00 to Area 18, $10.00 to GSO and $10.00 to H&I. Doing OK. Attendance is down. Now we will be giving chips at our meeting. Name change still pending. Stephanie C. Mary A.: How it Works: Absent Dave N.: Friday Night Service & Unity: Splits were $10.00 to Dist. 4, $10.00 to Area 18, $10.00 to TVICO and $10.00 to H&I. Attendance is u and down, averaging around 15. We have some new faces with some energy. No major changes. I am looking forward to representing our group at the Fall Assembly. Dave N. Pamela M.: Women in Recovery: We have less people coming the past few weeks but 4 of us are regulars. It will pick back up. Pam M. Paula P.: Old Timers: Splits $15.00 to H&I. We re still here! Paula P. Hugh R.: Fine Group: Splits $20.00 to TVICO. Holding our own. Summer attendance is down. Average attendance is 7 with 2 newcomers. Hug R. Laura B.: Unity in Recovery: No Report this month. Laura B. Special committee Chair reports DCM: On August I attended the Area 18 Business meeting in Twin Falls. GSR s please bring the Delegate GSO report to the assembly. ( is the General Service Conference book on the table.) Included in these minutes are the Fall Assembly s three amendments to be voted on. Please become familiar with the opinion of your group conscience on each. Your vote counts. Let s have a much better turn out of GSR s present at this assembly. Please check the table for: GSO has issued envelopes for contributions and Birthday envelopes (write in your home group number), the Area Treasurer s Report, the Fal Area Assembly agenda and a copy of the 54th annual meeting of the General Service Conference of Alcoholics Anonymous and The Wagon Whee Dist. 6 submitted new meeting schedules. Bridging the Gap applications. GSO has reported that 62 out of 120 groups are presently donating. It takes $.55 per month per member to sell literature at cost. This is 12 work and it starts with the basket at group level. Maybe we need to start putting in an extra dollar. I rode down with our Area Treasurer-Janis Mc. and Dist. 5 s-jeri T.; therefore I am returning $45.00 paid for my mileage. Friends are God s amends for our relatives. Yours in love and service. Ralayne P. Alt DCM: Wes H: Last month raffle was $52.15 and the 7th tradition was $ Thank you all who pitched in to make the dinner a success. It w another fine display of district unity pulling together. The Women in Recovery group will put on next months birthday dinner. Wes H. H & I Canyon County: Michael E.: Missing in action or not, wounded in the line of duty or not? Thank you all for the warm welcome back. Shou be back up to speed shortly. Thank you for allowing me to serve, or not. Michael E. Central Office Trustee: Kathy H.: We re set up for the Fall Assembly. We got 60 t-shirts for sale amongst other items for sale at fall Assembly. Things are running really smooth at TVICO. Lots of inventory in stock. Things are looking good. Kathy H. Inter-group Rep: Kat S.: Absent Grapevine Rep: Ken P: Pretty lazy month for me although I did pass out several subscription forms. There was paid gift subscription as a raffle prize at last b-day dinner. Currently Nampa is pretty well covered with Group GVR s. Young peoples Vision, How it Works, Sunday Morning Pioneer, Friday Night Newcomers and Stepping Stones all have GVR s. Future plans to invade Caldwell. I have spoken with rep. from St. David s groups about possibility of combining groups for purpose of selecting service positions (Inter-group, H&I, CPC/PI, GVR) and plan to attend 12 ste club meetings in near future. Grapevine display will be at the Birthday dinner. I will attend the Fall Assembly. I can always find a place for old Grapevines, keep em coming. Grapevine subscribers make better Lovers! Ken P. Archives: Geoff H.: Not much new to report, But thanks to Janet W. for the article on AA s first meeting place and Newt for the 1984 business meeting notes and Ken P. who will be donating a 1981 Grapevine. Geoff H. CPC/PI: Roger H. Area CPC/PI: Area CPC/PI met on July 29. Inventoried our catalogues and brochures. Will be making places to put brochure in medical clinics in metropolitan areas. We need to find a source for brochures stands. All are new to positions and are in process of reading the CPC/PI rep from Caldwell. I am attending Fall Assembly. Roger H. 7th Tradition: $25.00 OLD BUSINESS 1. Voting of the three amendments to Dist. 4 guidelines: Archives amendment: passed Dist 4 business meeting amendment: passed Special Committee amendment: passed NEW BUSINESS 1. Idaho Area 18 has three service structure guideline amendments that will be voted on at the Fall Assembly. Talk to your groups and be there to VOTE. 2. We sadly need a new inter-group rep. Please bring nominations back to the next business meeting 3. John B. for H&I West: Group donations Dec thru Aug. 21, 2004 $ District 4 donations $36.14 I would like to encourage all groups to take a look at ways all groups can better support H&I West. Some suggestions are pink cans. Some oth groups are donating all change they receive and that has worked well. If every member could donate $.05 every meeting, H&I West could fulfill it

7 responsibility of taking the message to the alcoholic who still suffers. Please take careful thought in this and talk to your groups. Let us know any ideas you have to help out. John B. 4. Stephanie C. would like to thank the All Twelve Step Club & TVICO for having Chips, Literature, etc. at the All Twelve Step Club. It has bee much more convenient to get supplies. Ralayne closed the meeting with the Responsibility Statement at 5:15pm Coming Events in District Fall Assembly Idaho Falls October 1,2, Caldwell Speaker Meeting 3rd Sat. monthly at The All 12 Step Club Friday Night Newcomers Potluck 7pm & Speaker Meeting 8pm Sept. 24, 2004 Dist. 4 Birthday Potluck 6:30 pm October 9, 2004 at Grace Episcopal Church, Raffle following Next meeting will be October 9, 4:00pm Grace Episcopal Note to all groups: Please make sure your group name and District is included on ALL distributions (District, Area, GSO, TVICO etc.) Thank Yo Respectfully submitted: Margie W. Dist. 4 Secretary District 8 Monthly Business Meeting Minutes for September 2, 2004 Rodney N. opened the meeting with the Serenity Prayer and Angela A. read the 12 Concepts. Secretary (Lorri P.) Minutes from August accepted with exception of correction to the August Treasurer s report. The corrections were not made due to a communications error so the August Treasurer Report remained as it was. Treasurer (Lee D.) Lee presented report, it was accepted as written. The Anticipated Available Funds are $ and will be disbursed. Rodney noted he had received a check from Attitude Adjustments of $350 and he would bring to next meeting. DCM Report (Rodney N.)- Rodney handed out the Area 18 August Business Meeting Minutes (On file) Archives was discussed extensively. No decisions were made. PRASSA 2005 Registration Forms are available, Spanish version is on the backside. Jim M., our Area 18 Delegate, may have a slide presentation on the 7th Tradition at the Area 18 Business Meeting in October. Area 18 has 200 Groups with only 62 sending contributions to GSO. Currently GSO receives $.33 per member but it costs them $.55 per member resulting in GSO making up the remaining $.22. It is suggested that trusted servants start referring to GSO as a part of we instead of us vs. them. Rodney handed out updated district roster and has included some helpful addresses and web site addresses. Some changes were made to it during the meeting. Lee D. has a new address (her first and last Brenda B. address instead Let Rodney know if there needs to be other changes. Rodney handed out the Fall Assembly Business Meeting Agenda. (On file) There will be 3 guideline amendments to be voted on. (Discussed under new business) Rodney said it would be nice if everyone attending the Area Assembly could see at least the Delegate s report part of the business meeting. Jim D. has some interesting things to share. Rodney has Birthday Envelopes for GSO available to take back to the groups. Rodney has new information to hand out on the International 2005 Convention in Toronto Canada. Registration forms should be available at the next meeting. Old Business: Archives Service position is still open. Bring anyone interested to the next business meeting. SponsorshipWorkshop; There was a lot of input from everyone on the specifics of the workshop: Saturday Night Live, Seekers, Speak Easy and StepSisters will invite 2 panelists each (one speaker to discuss sponsoring, the other to speak on being sponsored). Turning Point will setup. New Beginnings will clean up. Shoulder to Shoulder will fix the lunch, provided the group agrees to do so. Lunch Bunch will ask people act as chairpersons for the round table discussions. Rachael will ask Saturday Night live if we can borrow their PA system. Ken will ask John to provide some Grapevine literature on sponsorship. The Area 18 Assembly Growth Issue was discussed. Rodney explained the issue to the new GSRs. New Business: Rodney went over the three Area 18 Guideline Amendments as read. Take it back to your groups and discuss. At the Area Business meeting there will be nominations and a vote for a Trustee at Large. Service Reports: Alternate DCM Candis C.: Candis will contact church about dates available for the Sponsorship Workshop and will everyone with the final date. Note: Candice sent an shortly after this meeting notifying us All Saints Episcopal Church has us booked for Nov 20.

8 Hospitals and Institutions (H&I) Susan T.: -Susan missed the meeting but received the minutes. H&I s inventory of Big Books is good and the funds are in good shape. There is an article in Slippery When Wet on Bridging the Gap. Grapevine John S.: Not present. Central Office Trustee Ron T.: -Business at CO was stinko. -They are in the planning stages of the Feb. 6th Superbowl Party. -Answering Service will not except blocked calls so groups really need to work at taking the calls. -Rick s wages were increased to above minimum wage Cooperation with the Professional Community and Public Information (CPC/PI) John F. -Sara D. resigned as chair and Roger from District 4 took her place. -District 4, 5 and 8 have good participation in this area. -A panel of four represented CPC/PI at the 7th Tradition Workshop. -There was a meeting with Vic A. from CPC/PI West. A resolution on financing is getting closer with the help of Madeleine P. -John advised everyone to keep CPC/PI informed about contacts or actions they may be taking in this are so that they can follow up. Also this will keep us from breaking any Traditions. Archives : Ken S. has been working with others on finding a space to rent for Archives. They have been in contact with Barry and have talked about the lease signing aspect. Ken urged everyone to get their Archive positions filled in their groups as it really could use the support. Group Reports: Attitude Adjustment Marsha: Not present Happy Hour Tracy B.: Jamie Lee, Alternate GSR presented report. Attendance is up after looking bleak for a while. Lots of newcomers. Campout with Mardi Gras theme in August turned out well. On Sept. 11th there will be a fundraiser for Christmas. Sept 18 there will be a Remember George picnic at Manitou Park. Meat will be provided, pot luck on the rest. Hoot Owls Abraham O: A second group inventory was done which resulted in an increase of interest in AA Service. Lunch Bunch Lisa S.: Lisa has not been able to attend her home group meetings very often due to her job, so she is going to discuss with the group whether they would like her to continue serving as GSR. Mountain Home Bill T.: Campout turned out good with their campfire meeting lasting a long time. Attendance is up especially for the noon meeting. They do have a speaker for this month s Thursday night potluck meeting. New Beginnings Don T.: Don is unable to attend the meeting a lot but it has grown. A lot of old timers. Saturday Night Live Terri N. -Rachael, Alt. GSR reported. Campout had only eleven people show up but they still had a great time with lots of food. SNL purchased 60 adult tickets and 70 children tickets for people to attend Sober Days at the fair. Meetings are getting bigger. Shoulder to Shoulder Brenda B.: Everything is holding steady. Grimes Creek campout is this weekend Sept 4th and 5th. See Brenda for details. Seekers Ken S.: Everything is going well. Everyone introduces them selves. If there is a newcomer in the meeting then someone shares the first few steps. All positions have been filled except for Archives. Step Sisters Cindy H.: Not present. Speakeasy Angela A.: New GSR for this group. They have held a group inventory and had a format change. They now have anyone willing to sponsor raise their hands. Sundowners Perry C.: Out to being out of town, Perry has not been to the meeting so is unable to tell us anything about it. Turning Point Ron T.: Fliers are out for the Grimes Creek Campout on Sept The Turning Point meetings are Mon Fri at 5:30 PM. On Wednesdays only, the meeting is held across the hall Women s Connection Linda H.: Attendance is good and they are having a good time. Closed: Next meeting will be Thursday October 7th, 2004 at 7:00 p.m. District 3 Meeting First Tuesday - 6:30 PM Alano Club October 5, 2004 November 2, 2004 District 8 Meeting First Thursday - 7:00 PM Monthly Business Meetings Cutoff Date for Newsletter Articles October 29, 2004 November 29, 2004 Hospitals and Institutions (H&I) Third Saturday Corrections - 9:00 AM Treatment - 9:45 AM

9 200 Myrtle St. (Happy Hour) October 7, 2004 November 4, 2004 Board of Trustees Meeting Monday preceding the 2nd Thursday Central Office - 7:00 PM 1524 Vista, Room 10 October 11, 2004 November 8, 2004 Treasure Valley Intergroup Second Thursday - 7:00 PM 200 Myrtle St. (Happy Hour) October 14, 2004 November 11, 2004 District 4 Meeting Second Saturday - 4:00 PM 4th St. & 10 Ave S., Nampa Grace Episcopal Church October 9, 2004 November 13, 2004 H&I West - 10:00 AM 1524 Vista, Room 9 (Saturday Night Live) October 9, 2004 November 20, 2004 District 5 Meeting Third Sunday - 10:00 AM 822 W. Cherry Lane, Meridian October 17, 2004 November 21, 2004 PI/CPC Meeting Last Monday - 7:00 PM 2206 N. Cole St. Stephens Episcopal Church October 31, 2004 November 29, 2004 District 9 Meeting Second Saturday Call for location October 9, 2004 November 13, 2004 Where To Send Your 7th Tradition Contributions Idaho Area 18 Treasurer P.O. Box 296 Middleton, ID District 3 P.O. Box 7892 Boise, ID T.V.I.C.O. (Central Office) P.O. Box 5144 Boise, ID G.S.O. (General Service Office) P.O. Box 459 Grand Central Station New York, NY H & I West (Hospitals & Institutions) P.O. Box 2513 Boise, ID District 4 P.O. Box 1408 Caldwell, ID District 5 P.O. Box Boise, ID District 8 P.O. Box 696 Boise, ID District 9 [Check with Central Office] Yes!!!! Sign me up for this awesome newsletter!! New Subscription rates starting after 7/1/2004 are prorated as follows for the year (July to June): July - June: $12 Oct. - June: $ 9 Jan - June: $ 6 Apr - June: $ 3 Expiration Date for all current subscribers will be June 30, You will be reminded to renew at that time. Name: Address: City: State: Zip Code: Phone # (Optional): Amount Sent: $ Make checks payable to Donors Club/TVICO Mail to: T.V.I.C.O. PO Box 5144 Boise, Idaho If any AA Group or individual can not afford the suggested donation, please contact the Central Office to arrange a free subscription. Thanks to all the volunteers we have had in Central Office - we appreciate you!! Anyone who is interested in volunteering please call

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