LCG RTAG 12: The Collbortive Tool Needs of Steven Goldfrb Shpg Collbortion 2006 CICG, Genev - 11 Dec 2006
LCG RTAG 12 LCG RTAG Computg Grid Requirements Technicl Assessment Group Proposed LCG Project Execution Bord Seek Common Ground, Solutions Problems Shred Collbortions RTAG 12 Focus on Collbortive Tools Video & Phone Conferencg, Document Shrg, Appliction Shrg, Lecture Archivg, bctg, Conference Mngement, Remote Opertions, etc. Assembled Sprg 2004 Fl Report Sprg 2005 Mte Mte Assess Assess needs needs collbortive collbortive ols ols of of ll ll collbortion collbortion members, members, locted locted t t mjor mjor lbs lbs or or smller smller stitutes, stitutes, cludg cludg isolted isolted ( lpp ) ( lpp ) users. users. Survey Survey existg existg technologies technologies consider consider costs, costs, permnce, permnce, hrdwre hrdwre bwidth bwidth requirements, requirements, terconnectivity. terconnectivity. Mke Mke concrete concrete proposls proposls bout bout how how CERN CERN fcilities fcilities orgniztion orgniztion might might be be consolidted, consolidted, improved improved better better ed ed immedite immedite future, future, with with strong strong emphis emphis on on permnce permnce perceived perceived remote remote users. users. Shpg Collbortion 2006 S. Goldfrb - University of Michign RTAG 12 - Slide 2
RTAG 12 Composition Prticipnt Peter Hrisv Steven Goldfrb (chir) Roger Jones Bolek Wyslouch In McArthur Gerhrd Rven Alber Pce Dvid Foster Mick Srr Mick Drper Tony Doyle Philippe Glvez Christ Helft Les Robertson (ex-officio) Institute CERN-PH/AIP University of Michign Lncter University MIT University of Oxd NIKHEF CERN-IT/IS CERN-IT/CS CERN-HR/PMD CERN-IT/UDS University of Glgow ClTech LAL - IN2P3 (Orsy) CERN-IT/DI Representg Alice Atl Atl CMS b b Internet Services Communiction Services Trg User Document Services GridPP VRVS HTASC-CSMM Chir LCG-PEB Chir Collbortion Representtive CERN Representtive Collbortive Tool Expert Recipient of Fl Report Shpg Collbortion 2006 S. Goldfrb - University of Michign RTAG 12 - Slide 3
RTAG 12 Activities Investigtion weekly, -depth discussions between representtives of collbortions experts field (RTAG prticipnts, vited guests); discussions with CERN stffs; nlysis of ml ml surveys of collbortion members; bic tests of equipment systems usg fcilities stlled vrious CERN conference rooms. Documenttion Report PEB (1 Jun 2004) http://cern.ch/muondoc/rtg12/presenttions/peb/20040601/interimreport.ppt Report PEB (30 Nov 2004) http://cern.ch/muondoc/rtg12/presenttions/peb/20041130/progressreport.ppt Fl Report (CERN-LCG-PEB-2005-07, 27 Apr 2005) http://cern.ch/muondoc/rtg12/report/rtag12-report.doc Shpg Collbortion 2006 S. Goldfrb - University of Michign RTAG 12 - Slide 4
Dem Collbortive Tools Meetgs 350 300 250 200 150 100 50 0 Mr'03 Apr'03 My'03 Jun'03 Jul'03 Aug'03 Sep'03 Oct'03 Nov'03 Video Conferences 12000 Dec'03 Jn'04 Feb'04 Mr'04 Apr'04 My'04 Jun'04 Jul'04 Aug'04 VRVS/ECS Monthly Hours Ports/Connections Sep'04 Oct'04 Nov'04 Dec'04 Jn'05 Feb'05 Mr'05 b CMS Atl Alice 10000 8000 6000 ECS VRVS 4000 2000 0 Nov-03 Dec-03 Jn-04 Feb-04 Mr-04 Apr-04 My-04 Jun-04 Jul-04 Aug-04 Sep-04 Oct-04 Nov-04 Dec-04 Jn-05 Feb-05 Mr-05 Shpg Collbortion 2006 S. Goldfrb - University of Michign RTAG 12 - Slide 5
RTAG 12 Fdgs From Executive Summry The The RTAG RTAG h h found found lrge lrge growg growg gp gp between between requirements requirements of of Collbortions Collbortions high high qulity, qulity, robust robust collbortive collbortive ols, ols, vilbility vilbility of of se se ols ols t t CERN CERN t t prticiptg prticiptg stitutes. stitutes. This This gp gp is is result result of of creg creg need need growg growg populrity populrity of of ols, ols, experiments experiments enter enter criticl criticl stge stge of of commissiong, commissiong, sembly, sembly, softwre softwre development, development, lck lck of of dedicted dedicted resources resources on on prt prt of of CERN CERN collbortions collbortions ddress ddress this this dem. dem. RTAG 12 Fl Report Mjor Pots No Sgle, Centrl Orgniztion with CERN No Rel Coordtion or Dilogue Between Collbortions Existg CERN Fcilities In Miml Mtennce Mode 5 Yers Too Few Fcilities t CERN No Common Guideles Externl Lbs, Institutes Existg Services Lckg Support, Cler Requirements No Decision On Which Services To Use Or How To Integrte Them Neverless, Some Bright Pots (InDiCo, VRVS, WLAP) & Good Ide Shpg Collbortion 2006 S. Goldfrb - University of Michign RTAG 12 - Slide 6
RTAG 12 Fdgs In Or Words You You wnt wnt drive drive Lcoln Lcoln Merti, Merti, better better still still But But your your Chevy Chevy needs needs muffler muffler And And you you cn t cn t fd fd bill bill Tht s Tht s Blues Blues Cnettes Cnettes Blues Blues B B Shpg Collbortion 2006 S. Goldfrb - University of Michign RTAG 12 - Slide 7
Primry Recommendtions of RTAG 12 1. 1. CERN CERN estblish estblish mt mt Collbortive Collbortive Tool Tool Service Service needs needs of of collbortions. collbortions. 2. 2. mt mt VRVS VRVS strd strd service service collbortions. collbortions. 3. 3. estblish, estblish, mt mt n n dustry dustry strd strd H.323 H.323 MCU-bed MCU-bed service service collbortions, collbortions, complementry complementry teroperble teroperble with with VRVS. VRVS. 4. 4. provide provide user user deskp/lpp deskp/lpp collborrs collborrs situted situted t t t t ir ir home home stitutes stitutes or or elsewhere, elsewhere, pproprite. pproprite. 5. 5. stll, stll, mt mt 24/7 24/7 operr-free operr-free system system t t CERN. CERN. 6. 6. equip equip mt mt ll ll udiri udiri meetg meetg rooms rooms buildg buildg 40, 40, well well those those locted locted elsewhere elsewhere t t commonly commonly collbortions, collbortions, tegrted tegrted.. 7. 7. extend extend current current web web ctg ctg web web rchivg rchivg services services clude clude ll ll udiri udiri meetg meetg rooms rooms buildg buildg 40, 40, well well those those locted locted elsewhere elsewhere t t commonly commonly collbortions. collbortions. 8. 8. tke tke on on ledg ledg role role development development of of globl globl Computer Computer Supported Supported Collbortive Collbortive Work Work Environment Environment community. community. 9. 9. development development equip equip IP-bed IP-bed ols ols collbortions, collbortions, such such VRVS, VRVS, with with Grid Grid certificte certificte untiction untiction uthoriztion uthoriztion mechnism. mechnism. RTAG 12 Fl Report Shpg Collbortion 2006 S. Goldfrb - University of Michign RTAG 12 - Slide 8
Follow-Up Endorsement Collbortions All Four Spokespersons Expressed Written Support Generl greement with fdgs, tions Noise RTAG Chir Fl Report Presented t Conferences HEPix 2005, ESnet 2005, CHEP 2006, ViDeNet 2006, ACCU 2006, ATLAS 2006, Shpg Collbortion 2006 Chnges CERN Orgniztion All Activities Brought Under IT Coordted IT-UDS-AVC Division Cretion of RCTF (Remote Collbortion Tk Force) Chired Thom Bron (IT/UDS) Attended IT Coordtion, Developers, Representtives Bi-Monthly Meetgs Focus on Protypes, Priorities (no budget, yet) Current discussions on MoU s /or service greements Documenttion https://cern.ch/twiki/b/view/rctf/bhome Shpg Collbortion 2006 S. Goldfrb - University of Michign RTAG 12 - Slide 9
Follow-Up (2) CERN & Activities Protype Video Conferencg Fcilities 40-4-C01 (funded ATLAS), 40-R-B10 (funded CMS) Turils Users Next Audirium 40 under vestigtion Centrl Room Mngement System HERMES Collbortion MCU Operted Prtnership: IN2P3, CNRS, INSERM CERN http://cern.ch/it-multimedi/hermes.htm Audio Conferencg System (24/7 - No Operr) Under Bet Test Lecture Archivg System ATLAS Recordg ll Plenry Sessions, Turils 2006 http://esmne.physics.ls.umich.edu/wlp-cwis/dex.php New Infrtructure M Audirium, Softwre & Dtbe Development SMAC System, Similr Michign s WLAP (Ongog) InDiCo Integrtion of bookg system VRVS, Phone, CRBS (Ongog) In my opion, bout much cn be done without serious dedicted budget! Shpg Collbortion 2006 S. Goldfrb - University of Michign RTAG 12 - Slide 10
Wht Rems Completion of Conference Fcility Implementtion Service-Level Agreement Between & CERN IT Specifiction of Requirements & Resources Agreement from Both Prties Similr Agreements with Individul Entities Universities, Externl Lbs, etc. Adequte Fundg CERN/ Budgets Support Conference Services /CERN-Wide Support EVO, ECS, Or Fcilities Currently In Use Mtennce + R&D Steve s Opion re very close stisfcry solution: An excellent stff h tken over t CERN IT (see Tim s tlk next). They hve cler, workble pln implement. The experiments recognize urgency & re redy dedicte resources. re only witg CERN do sme. Shpg Collbortion 2006 S. Goldfrb - University of Michign RTAG 12 - Slide 11