Lawyers & Social Workers Working together in community law

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Lawyers & Social Workers Working together in community law Research - Tamara Walsh Associate Professor, TC Beirne Law School, The University of Queensland Presenter - Georgina Warrington Director, Welfare Rights Centre Inc, Brisbane

Outline Welfare Rights Centre Inc, Brisbane The Research Methodology Results Positives Challenges common problems What works best Implications for educators? Conclusions

Welfare Rights Centre Inc. A community legal centre, providing specialist advice and advocacy in relation to social security and disability discrimination law 80% Social Security 10% Employment Services 10% Disability Discrimination Advice, advocacy and, in some matters, representation at tribunals and courts. Multi-disciplinary team Human service workers Lawyers Reliant on input from volunteers

WRC Services Information and advice - Telephone Advice Service 1500 advices per year Casework 300 cases per year Legal Advice and Representation Social Work Community Legal Education Law Reform and Policy Work

Targeted Services Vulnerable people Casework Guidelines:- Existence of issues which seriously negatively impact on client s capacity to self-advocate: Homeless or at risk of becoming homeless Mental health condition Cognitive disability No income or assets Affected by family violence At risk of harm Social isolation

Client Profiles Age: Majority 50-64 years Under 35 only 12 % of clients Gender: Slightly more females Location: 30% of our clients are from regional Queensland ATSI: 4% 65% identify as having a disability

Client Issues Facing significant barriers to social and economic inclusion, such as: No income or assets Domestic violence Disabilities Communication difficulties Low Education level Addictions No / insecure accommodation

The research Why? Researcher Tamara Walsh, Assoc. Professor at University of Queensland

Methodology 5 CLCs participated 10 focus groups conducted with lawyers and with social workers (separately) September 2011 to February 2012 13 lawyers, 11 social workers, 75% female Range of areas of law Semi-structured discussions

Results the positives

Results - the positives of IDP Varied from CLC to CLC, however there were common themes Place for both lawyers and social workers in CLCs Each profession s deficiencies were supplemented by the other s strengths Some said working with the other professional group had contributed to their professional development. However despite overall support for each other s presence, recurrent difficulties associated with IDP

Results the challenges common problems

Lack of respect for, or value of, each other s roles Social workers felt not valued as professional in own right Lawyers belief that there was nothing that social workers were doing that they could not do themselves Playing to stereotypes General ignorance as to role of social workers Lawyers often critical of social workers competence, while social workers did not reciprocate

Differing ethical and professional Conflict of interest obligations Clear-cut rules for lawyers Social workers ethical obligation to assist a distressed person Whose professional obligations should be given primacy? PII

Differing professional approaches Definition of the client differs Acting on client s instructions versus taking a best interests approach Some lawyers dismissive and disparaging of best interests approach viewed it as paternalistic Also disparaging of social work practice of discussing issues broadly with client (rather than focussing only on the legal issues)

Results what works best

Clarifying roles and expectations Need clearly defined role boundaries Good communication essential Clear position descriptions Worker training to ensure role of social worker understood

Fostering mutual respect Mutual respect was considered crucial Desire of social workers for IDP to be considered a partnership of equals Working conditions and pay structure Seeing beyond stereotypes

Improving interpersonal relationships and communication Maturity of team (age and continuity) Communication central Informal chats and case meetings Need to inform clients from outset re service practice of seeking advice re cases in-house

The teamwork model Most preferred a teamwork approach to IDP Information shared freely Clients told at outset In Centres with best relationships, client files were not shared, separate social worker insurance Professional autonomy (esp) for social workers Legal interventions considered complementary to holistic approach of social workers

Implications for educators? Responsibility of social work and legal educators Social workers learn very little about the legal system and legal reasoning Law students learn little about interviewing skills or systemic advocacy

Research conclusions Continuing challenge both professions acknowledge the benefits of IDP, however the difficulties continue The CLC workers observations on what works best provide pointers for how to improve IDP Positive feedback from clients united teams - reminder of common goal - achieving best possible client outcomes

Marriage made in heaven or odd couple? Just as in some marriages the partners need each other no matter how unsatisfactory the relationship seems to be to the outsider, so neither lawyer nor social worker can survive alone. What is needed is a partnership of lawyer and social worker which recognises, values and utilizes the training, skills and understandings each has to offer. Swain, P. (1989), From Carney to Cleveland to Chinkapook and Cottles Bridge or lawyer and social worker Can the marriage work?, Journal of Social Welfare Law, 229.

Welfare Rights Centre Brisbane Advice Line: (07) 3847 5532 Free Call: 1800 358 511 Admin Line: (07) 3421 2510 Fax: (07) 3421 2500 Address: PO Box 293 Fortitude Valley QLD 4120 Email: wrcqld@wrcqld.org.au Website: http://www.wrcqld.org.au/