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1 Building a retail powerhouse in Europe s biggest economy Head of Private & Business Clients Société Générale Premium Review Conference Paris, 3 December financial transparency
2 Agenda 1 Group performance 2 Retail powerhouse in Europe s biggest economy 3 Postbank: The perfect fit 4 An attractive business case financial transparency. 2
3 3Q2010 at a glance 3Q2010 3Q2010 ex Postbank effect (3) 3Q2009 Profitability Income before income taxes (in EUR bn) (1.0) Net income (in EUR bn) (1.2) Pre-tax RoE (target definition) (1) 13% 13% 14% Diluted EPS (in EUR) (1.75) Sep Sep 2010 ex Postbank effect (3) 30 Jun 2010 Tier 1 capital ratio 11.5% 11.9% 11.3% Capital Core Tier 1 capital ratio 76% 7.6% 81% 8.1% 75% 7.5% Tier 1 capital (in EUR bn) Balance sheet Total assets (IFRS, in EUR bn) 1,958 1,960 1,926 Total assets (adjusted, in EUR bn) 1,044 1,047 1,043 Leverage ratio (target definition) (2) (1) Based on average active equity (2) Total assets (adjusted) divided by total equity per target definition (3) The Postbank related effect of EUR (2.3) bn is a non-cash charge with no tax benefit attached, which represents the difference between the previous carrying value of the equity method investment t and the fair value of current stake as of 30 September 2010 (taking into account the VWAP of EUR per share of the PTO as recoverable amount) financial transparency. 3
4 Capital ratios and risk-weighted assets Target: 10% Q 2Q 3Q 4Q 1Q 2Q 3Q Tier 1 ratio, in % Core Tier 1 ratio, in % RWA, in EUR bn Note: Tier 1 ratio = Tier 1 capital / RWA; core Tier 1 ratio = (Tier 1 capital - hybrid Tier 1 capital) / RWA financial transparency. 4
5 Positive IBIT contribution from all operating segments Income before income taxes, in EUR m 3Q2010 3Q2009 3Q2010 acquisition impact / Postbank effect CB&S 981 1,101 GTB (1) 201 AWM (2) 134 PBC CI (2,337) 2,338 (3) 117 C&A (349) (267) (1) ABN AMRO Netherlands impact (2) PWM: Sal. Oppenheim / BHF impact (3) Postbank effect financial transparency. 5
6 Performance vs. targets Income before income taxes, in EUR bn 9M2010 reported Phase 4 potential 2011 Acquisition impact Corporate Banking & Securities Global Transaction Banking M2010 excluding ABN AMRO Netherlands acquisition: EUR 0.6 bn Asset and Wealth Management 9M2010 excluding Sal. Oppenheim / BHF acquisition: EUR 0.3 bn Private & Business Clients Total business divisions Note: Figures may not add up due to rounding differences financial transparency. 6
7 PBC gaining g momentum In EUR m Revenues Income before income taxes Severances (1) 5,576 5,749 Other (19)% 18% Deposits & Payment Services Advisory/ Brokerage Discretionary Portfolio Mgmt. 9% 6% 24% Credit Products (1)% M2010 9M2009 9M2010 annualized (1) Includes direct severances booked in business allocations of severance booked in infrastructure financial transparency. 7
8 Agenda 1 Group performance 2 Retail powerhouse in Europe s biggest economy 3 Postbank: The perfect fit 4 An attractive business case financial transparency. 8
9 PBC / Postbank to become a clear leader in Germany and to close the gap vs. large European players German retail market European retail peers Domestic clients, Dec 2009, in million ~50 Domestic net revenues in retail business, FY2009, in EUR bn Intesa SanPaolo 10.4 ~30 Santander 8.8 PBC Unicredit BBVA PBC BNP Paribas Nordea Commerzbank (1) ING (1) Segment Private Customers Source: Company data financial transparency. 9
10 A retail powerhouse Facts and figures German branch networks 30 September 2010 / 9M2010 : 774 / Preintegration global PBC Postbank PBC + PB Clients, in m 14.5 (1) Branches 1,760 1,119(1) 2,879 Mobile Sales Force >3,000 >4,000 >7,000 Post Partner agencies >4,500 >4,500 FTE 23,684 20,695 44,379 Securities, in EUR bn (2) Deposits, in EUR bn Loans, in EUR bn RWA, in EUR bn Revenues, in EUR m 4,312 2,883 7,195 IBIT, in EUR m Postbank: 1,119 / Berliner Bank: 61 norisbank: 94 EUR 260 bn retail deposits (3) (1) Postbank Annual Report 2009 (German version p. 10); on Postbank Interim Report as of 30 September 2010 (2) Includes sight, term, savings and home savings deposits from retail and business clients (3) Includes EUR 50 bn Private Wealth Management, and excludes business clients financial transparency. 10
11 Germany: Healthy market environment Germany with strong economy, GDP, 2009, in USD bn affluent private customers, Disposable income of private households, 2007, in EUR bn 3,235 2,635 2,198 2,089 1,466 1,515 1,197 1, GER FR UK IT ES GER UK FR IT ES...and favourable labour market Unemployment, in % GER FR UK USA ES Source: DB Research, ECB, Company reports financial transparency. 11
12 and a retail banking environment better than perceived Retail banking markets overview Retail banking revenues after risk costs 2009 (1), in EUR bn GER IT FR UK ES Positioning of combined PBC / Postbank Significant combined PBC / Postbank share in Europe s largest retail banking market Price leadership in standard d products and leading advisory services to form strong basis for further organic market share growth LLP ratio, median (2), in % GER FR IT UK 22 ES Healthy German retail credit market environment with no signs of overheating offering significant growth environment e.g. in mortgage and consumer lending to affluent Cost CAGR of key banks (3), in % (1.4) (1.3) (0.3) UK GER IT FR Iberia Ø2.0 Positive cost trend in German retail banking market with further potential to be realized Combined PBC / Postbank to benefit from scale advantages vs. peers across all sectors (1) Projected, source McKinsey (2) Loan loss provisions in % of revenues in retail banking, average of leading market players of respective country (3) Source: BCG Source: DB Research, ECB, Company Reports financial transparency. 12
13 Agenda 1 Group performance 2 Retail powerhouse in Europe s biggest economy 3 Postbank: The perfect fit 4 An attractive business case financial transparency. 13
14 Rationale for Postbank acquisition What we get Customer bank (EUR 121 bn assets) (1) : Large, lean, profitable Non-customer bank (EUR 121 bn assets): Large, capital consumptive and less profitable Leverage Run-off Good for PBC Become the undisputed leader in German retail banking Achieve critical mass and close gap to European peers Realize substantial synergies Leverage Postbank distribution platform Good for Deutsche Bank Group Rebalance earnings mix Potential capital relief from mid-term run-off of non-core assets Significant expansion of retail deposit base enhances funding mix Accelerate re-rating of (1) Includes commercial real estate portfolio potentially subject to optimization measures financial transparency. 14
15 Complementary business propositions p... Advisory Banking Consumer Banking Advisory Banking proposition Prem mium Easy accessibility (branch / online) Relationship management with excellent service levels Full range product portfolio Target competitors: Advisor ry Mainstream High Breadth of product offering Low Leadership for priceconscious private and business clients Lean portfolio of quality products Target competitors: Note: Page with brand focus, not necessarily legal entities financial transparency. 15
16 reflected in different business mix Market share (1) Revenues (2) In % In % of total Current Account / Saving ~8-10% ~65-75% ~5-6% ~50% Loan / ~3-4% Mortgages / Home Savings ~3-4% ~20-30% ~25% Investments / Insurance ~4-5% ~2-10% ~10-14% ~25% (1) FMDS Data (and efinanclab) 2009 analysis (508) by DB Market Research; current account / savings used banking relation and current account ; investment / insurance used investment account and shares, full market > 100% due to multi banking usage (2) Postbank: Focus retail and business (small cap) client segment; data outside in estimation based on market revenue pools and expert opinion / modelling; Deutsche Bank: PBC Germany incl. Berliner Bank, excl. norisbank, Management Reporting (UBR), all Data 2009 financial transparency. 16
17 Postbank balance sheet: Non-customer vs. customer bank In EUR bn, 30 Jun Investment securities Includes Structured Credit Portfolio ( SCP ) of EUR 5.6bn Trading assets incl. hedge derivatives Loans and advances to other banks Other (incl. cash reserves) Goodwill & intangibles Loans and advances to customers Includes home finance Includes corporate loans thereof EUR 18.9 bn CRE portfolio (1) Overdrafts, consumer and other 8 63 Non- 37 Customer 33 Bank Customer Bank 39 Deposits from other banks 135 Trading liabilities incl. hedge derivatives Equity & subordinated debt Pension provisions & other liabilities Securitized liabilities Due to customers Savings deposits Home savings deposits Sight deposits Term deposits Covered bonds Assets Equity and liabilities (1) Potentially subject to optimization measures Note: Numbers may not add up due to rounding, does not include off-balance sheet exposures Source: Company information, DB analysis financial transparency. 17
18 Potential for mid-term capital relief from run-off of non-customer assets 30 June 2010, in EUR bn Operational risk illustrative Customer Bank Non- Customer Bank 7.7 Noncustomer assets Customer assets Aspire to free-up capital and redeploy at higher RoE (1) Assets RWA Total incremental capital consumption assuming 21% takeup (1) Capital relief potential includes EUR 0.9 bn RWA reductions (outside-in assuming risk weights as of 30 June 2010 and 10% Tier 1 ratio) from run-off of investment securities portfolio, as indicated by Postbank, and certain deductions for non-homogeneous loans, partly referring to customer assets, which are expected to reverse by end 2011, as indicated by Postbank Note: Scale not linear due to presentation purposes financial transparency. 18
19 Postbank s retail business is profitable and stable In EUR m Postbank s retail division with PBC s stable revenue stream will be consistent profits through the crisis strenghtened further PB pre-tax profit by segment (reported figures) Pro-forma combined PBC / Postbank revenues Transaction Banking Corporate Banking Retail Banking Financial Markets / Other (153) (31) (636) (1,123) (1,888) 3, ,500 2,000 1,500 1, Postbank (1) PBC 1Q 2Q 3Q 4Q 1Q 2Q 3Q 4Q 1Q 2Q 3Q FY 2008 FY M (1) Reported revenues adjusted from an outside-in perspective for one-off effects mainly from impairments on investment securities, measurement losses on embedded derivatives and gains/losses on sale of investment securities financial transparency. 19
20 PBC and PB Retail key ratios: RoE and CIR High RoEs through the crisis but efficiency to be improved Pre-tax RoE, in % Cost-Income-Ratio, in % PBC (1) Postbank Retail reported PBC (1) Postbank Retail reported xx Combined xx Combined M M2010 (1) Excl. severance payments financial transparency. 20
21 Agenda 1 Group performance 2 Retail powerhouse in Europe s biggest economy 3 Postbank: The perfect fit 4 An attractive business case financial transparency. 21
22 Integrated target operating model will enable us to benefit from broad market coverage Strategy & Steering One integrated management Consumer Banking Germany Advisory Germany Advisory Europe/Asia Two brands Two value propositions Platform (products, processes, technology) Retail Operating Standards One single platform Design-to-cost financial transparency. 22
23 Guiding gprinciples p for the design of the target platform Single platform Functional integration Design-to-cost/ Retailization Consistent harmonization i of processes and operating setup (e.g., sourcing, degree of centralization) Maximum degree of integrationi Consolidation of scattered functional activities Manage functions according to retail operating standards Unit cost reduction / standardization di i along common service levels Protection of factor cost advantages of PBC by optimization of existing legal l entity structures financial transparency. 23
24 Synergy targets and cost-to-achieve estimate In EUR m Outside-in view Split by type Split by category Cost-to-achieveto Revenue synergies ~1 bn p.a. Revenue synergies ~1 bn p.a. 100 Sales ~250 Cross-divisional synergies 100 PBC Premium Processes DB / PB cooperation (3) Sales PBC Premium Processes ~1.4 bn Operations 370 Cost synergies ~710 Operations 150 IT (1) 520 IT 230 Head-office 80 Head-office 150 Run-rate (2014/15) Run-rate (2014/15) (2) (2) (1) Excl. depreciation of capitalized software after 2015 (2) Contribution of synergy programs reaches run-rate in 2014 / 15 (3) Comprises revenue and cost synergies Note: Excludes Postbank s stand-alone program P4F, and PBC s portion of the infrastructure efficiency program Until 2014/15 financial transparency. 24
25 The roadmap to PBC s ambition level Income before income taxes, in EUR bn >3 ~1 (2) Assumptions: Full run-rate, i.e. full synergies realized No further cost-to-achieve PPA effects fully amortized No material impact from non- customer bank Published 2011 target Postbank customer bank P4F (1) Envisaged synergy target PBC / Postbank combined growth Ambition level (1) Postbank for Future: Existing Postbank efficiency yprogram, announced in November 2009 (2) Including EUR 0.1 bn cross-divisional synergies financial transparency. 25
26 Ambition level for the combined retail franchise Revenues of EUR >10 bn Income before income taxes of EUR >3 bn Cost / income ratio of <60% Pre-tax RoE of >20% Top 5 retail deposit taker in Europe Assumptions: Full run-rate, rate i.e. full synergies realized No further cost-to-achieve PPA effects fully amortized No material impact from non-customer bank financial transparency. 26
27 Cautionary statements This presentation contains forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements are statements that are not historical facts; they include statements about our beliefs and expectations and the assumptions underlying them. These statements are based on plans, estimates and projections as they are currently available to the management of. Forward-looking statements therefore speak only as of the date they are made, and we undertake no obligation to update publicly any of them in light of new information or future events. By their very nature, forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties. A number of important factors could therefore cause actual results to differ materially from those contained in any forward-looking statement. Such factors include the conditions in the financial markets in Germany, in Europe, in the United States and elsewhere from which we derive a substantial portion of our revenues and in which we hold a substantial portion of our assets, the development of asset prices and market volatility, potential defaults of borrowers or trading counterparties, the implementation of our strategic initiatives, the reliability of our risk management policies, procedures and methods, and other risks referenced in our filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Such factors are described in detail in our SEC Form 20-F of 16 March 2010 under the heading Risk Factors. Copies of this document are readily available upon request or can be downloaded from This presentation also contains non-ifrs financial measures. For a reconciliation to directly comparable figures reported under IFRS, to the extent such reconciliation is not provided in this presentation, refer to the 3Q2010 Financial Data Supplement, which is accompanying this presentation and available at financial transparency. 27
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