Playtech 2015 Interim Results. 27 August 2015
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1 Playtech 2015 Interim Results 27 August 2015 ALAN JACKSON Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Playtech's interim results for the 2015 financial year, we proceed in the usual format, presentation and then Q&A s. I know many of you are heading off to another presentation today so we will make sure that we finish by 10.30am at the latest. SLIDE 3 DELIVERING ON OUR STRATEGY I m delighted to be able to report that we have made significant progress against all aspects of our strategy during the first half of the year. Our Gaming business continues to go from strength to strength with our strategy of focussing on regulated markets driving growth. Our pipeline remains strong, with significant opportunities across all geographies, as customers seek to benefit from our market-leading omni-channel offering and our best-of-breed products in each and every product category. We also have completed a series of strategic acquisitions to create and enhance our new Financials Division, a high-growth and regulated industry. SLIDE 4 STRONG FINANCIAL PERFORMANCE Playtech has once again delivered an outstanding financial performance with reported revenues up by a third and adjusted EBITDA up 16% and EPS up 19% against the same period last year. Our financial performance, combined with the strength of our cashflows has allowed us to once again increase the interim dividend. Given the strength of our financial performance on all key metrics, combined with the strategic progress we have made, I have great confidence that the sustained momentum in the business will result in strong growth for the remainder of 2015 and beyond. I d now like to hand you over to Ron, whom I would like to congratulate on becoming the Chief Executive of the Financials division, as well as remaining as Chief Financial Officer of the Group. Over to you Ron
2 RON HOFFMAN Thank you Alan, and good morning everyone. SLIDE 6 RESULTS SUMMARY Playtech again delivered a strong financial performance for the first half of Total reported revenues were up 33% vs H1 2014, with adjusted EBITDA and adjusted Net Profit up 16% and 19% respectively. Our results for this period were driven by a variety of factors, including the continued organic growth of the business with further business wins, acquisitions which included Aristocrat Lotteries, Eurolive, Psiclone, Yoyo, Markets Limited, and further smaller acquisitions, the introduction of the POC tax in the UK, the significant weakening of the Euro within the first half and investments into new white-label arrangements in regulated markets. SLIDE 7 UNDERLYING RESULTS Looking at the underlying results, excluding acquisitions, and after adding back the effect of the UK POC tax, the underlying revenue growth was 29%, adjusted EBITDA increased by 26% and net profit increased by 40%. These results were negatively impacted by upfront investments in our white-label offering, the benefits of which should come through in the future when such initiatives achieve the necessary scale. For proper comparison, after stripping out the effect of the white label arrangements, total revenue increased by 25%, with adjusted EBITDA and adjusted net profit increasing at 32% and 46% respectively. If we further strip-out the positive exchange rates impact, revenues, adjusted EBITDA and adjusted net profit increased by 10%, 10% and 9% respectively, presenting a consistent growth across the key metrics. SLIDE 8 REVENUE GROWTH BY VERTICAL Playtech once again delivered a strong performance across all verticals, with the exception of Poker, which was expected and reflects the continued market trends. Casino continued to be the biggest contributor to growth, adding 32.7m of additional revenues in the half, taking revenues in that vertical to 148.9m. Casino growth was 8% at constant currency, or 11% when adding back the effect of the UK POC tax. The majority of the growth in Casino came from core web casino, being mainly slots and roulette, driven by Ladbrokes, GalaCoral, Sky and continued growth in Asia, with additional contribution from Bingo side games and Playtech Open Platform also seeing good growth. Mobile casino revenues on a constant currency basis have increased by 73% compared to the prior period with mobile penetration increasing to 14% from 9% last year. Services revenues increased from 61.3m in H to 73.9m in 2015, an increase of 21%, with strong growth from operational services and supporting Playtech s white label operations. Sport enjoyed strong growth with revenues increasing 30% to 16.1m, and 29% after adding back the effect of POC on a constant currency basis, with the majority of this growth coming from the Mobenga platform provided to top tier UK licensees. Land-based revenues almost tripled in the first half of the year to 15.1m, with very strong growth from Videobet and IGS, boosted by the acquisition of Aristocrat Lotteries acquired in September Excluding acquisition and on a constant currency basis the land-based vertical increased by
3 64% to 9.3m mainly due to setup charges from IGS new customers and further distribution of the VB offering with additional 2,000 machines compared to the previous year. Bingo revenues increased 20% in the half, 13% on an underlying constant currency basis and after adding back the effect of POC, with growth from all major licensees and with a significant increase in the mobile channel, accounting for 17% of revenues, up from 14% in H The online Poker market remains challenging with revenues down 19% in the half. After the period end, Playtech announced that ipoker, the world s largest poker network, will revert to a stronger, single tier to allow licensees and players to benefit from merging the two-tier liquidity pools. SLIDE 9 PERFORMANCE OF MARKETS LIMITED Playtech completed the acquisition of Markets Limited on 7 May 2015 and accordingly has consolidated the financial performance in May and June into Group results. For the full six months, Markets Limited delivered revenues of $48.2m, an increase of 60% on the same period in This impressive growth was achieved despite a weak May and June, caused by very low volatility within the market and we ll look at this on the next slide. Markets Limited s KPIs were strong in the period with active CFD customers up 34% and first time depositors up 39%, reflecting key drivers in the growth of the business. SLIDE 10 LOW MARKET VOLATILITY IN MAY AND JUNE As you will all be aware, there is a high correlation between volatility in the markets and the performance of our Financials division, with higher volatility driving higher revenues. The chart on the slides shows the volatility index over the past year and clearly illustrates that after high volatility in the first quarter of this year, Q2 saw very low market volatility, which naturally impacted revenues in the period. I m pleased to say that volatility increased significantly after the half year end which has had the expected positive impact on recent trading. I would just add that the business is naturally hedged with high volumes of retail customers on both sides of trades, with Markets Limited s sophisticated risk management systems sitting on top to limit exposure to any one market or instrument. Once we have completed the acquisitions of Plus500 and Ava Trade, we will be in a position to further drive the performance of the combined Financials group and I consider this in more detail shortly. SLIDE 11 MARGIN ANALYSIS The adjusted EBITDA margin of 39.5% in the half was impacted by lower margin of acquisitions and the white label activity together with the impact of the UK POC tax. Excluding acquisitions and the impact of the UK POC tax, the underlying adjusted EBITDA margin was 44.6%. When further stripping out the effect of lower margin white-label business in H1 2015, the adjusted EBITDA margin was 48.1% and adjusting for constant currency the H margin was 45.4%, in-line with the margin in the first half of last year. SLIDE 12 COSTS ANALYSIS
4 Adjusted operating expenses increased 48% from 116.8m to 173.1m in the half with 19.2m of the increase coming from acquisitions. The underlying operating expenses, excluding acquisitions and the effect of the UK POC tax and on a constant currency basis, increased by 24%. Revenue-driven costs comprise mainly direct marketing costs related both to the Gaming Services division and the Financials division, fees paid to sales agents and license fees paid to third parties, including games developers, IP owners and branded content, which are typically calculated as a share of the licensee revenues generated. Revenue-driven costs as a proportion of total revenue increased from 8% to 10%, mostly as a result of additional costs related to the white label operations. Employee-related costs as a proportion of adjusted non-revenue-related costs of operations decreased to 59% even when excluding acquisitions. Capitalisation of development costs remained at the same 14% level from total employee related costs as seen in Total employee-related costs excluding acquisitions were 72.8m compared to 59.6m last year, an increase of 22%, mostly as a result of the additional investment in live, mobile and bingo. Cost of service comprised dedicated development teams costs, charged back to licensees, hosting and software license costs. The increase is mostly as a result of growth in the dedicated team s headcount and new licensed technologies supporting continued investment into the IMS backend capabilities and the newly launched BIT offering. SLIDE 13 CASHFLOWS Playtech continues to be highly cash generative and once again delivered strong operating cashflows of 96.4m, representing 86% of adjusted EBITDA, slightly lower than last year due to timing changes in working capital. In addition to these operating cash inflows, Playtech raised net proceeds of 313m through an equity placing to fund future acquisitions including Plus500 and Ava Trade as well as arranging 240m of new debt facilities. Net cash outflows from investing activities totalled 301.8m in the first half m of this related to acquisitions made in the period, including Markets Limited and YoYo Games; 15.6m related to the investment in structured agreements and other equity-accounted associates; and 83.6m related to investment in shares of Ladbrokes and Plus500. The strong operating cashflows in the period support a 19% increase in the total dividend payout, which is in line with the growth in adjusted net profit. The dividend per share increased by 8%, reflecting the increase in number of shares following the equity placing. SLIDE 14 BALANCE SHEET Playtech has either spent or committed to over 1bn on strategic M&A in the first half of the year, with total assets more than doubling to stand at c. 2bn at the period end. Following the acquisition of Markets Limited, which has a maximum earn-out of 250m, the total for all earn-outs is now a maximum of c. 260m. As just discussed, the period also saw Playtech arrange 240m of new facilities and receive net proceeds of 313 from an equity placing. Putting all of this together, even after all of the acquisitions have completed, Playtech has retained its financial flexibility with gross cash expected at year end and with the potential for future further debt funding as required. At the year-end we would expect to have a few hundred million Euros of gross cash on the balance sheet, with the main inflows being the cash generated and drawing down the 240m of facilities with the main outflows being the H1 divided and the acquisitions of Plus500 and Ava Trade. It is worth
5 bearing in mind that we already spent c 60m on Plus500 shares which will reduce the amount left to spend. Taking into account the 240m of facilities, we would expect our net debt / EBITDA to be around neutral at the year-end or around 1x including earn-outs. SLIDE 16 GLOBAL FINANCIAL TRADING Turning now to the creation of the new Financials division, and with my Financials division CEO hat on, I thought it would make sense to spend some time focussing on why we entered the space as well as looking at what the business will look like, on the assumption that the acquisitions of Plus500 and Ava Trade complete which we expect them to do next month. The global financial trading space is highly attractive. Recent years have seen increased acceptance of CFDs as an asset class, with a significant portion of UK equity trading activity now executed through CFDs. The increase in global online penetration and increased investment appetite by retail customers globally, in addition to the advantages of simple, intuitive and accessible margin trading which caters for profits to be generated in both falling and rising markets, combined with transparency, flexibility and tax structure benefits, have resulted in CFD trading becoming one of the fastest growing products available to private investors. SLIDE 17 STRATEGIC RATIONALE Against this backdrop, Playtech entered the financial trading space as it is a highly attractive growth industry which is regulated. It has similar financial characteristics, and is driven by the same core key competencies, in the areas that Playtech excels today, satisfying all of our strategic criteria. In entering the space, Playtech can leverage its existing infrastructure, technological superiority and marketing and CRM expertise; and through this become a natural aggregator in the space, where it can benefit from scale advantages in becoming one of the largest B2C providers. Finally, as with any acquisition that Playtech makes, the acquisitions in the financial trading space are highly accretive with substantial cashflow conversion. SLIDE 18 THE FINANCIALS DIVISION Following the acquisition of Markets Limited, once the transactions of Plus500 and Ava Trade complete, the Financials division will become a significant business segment within the Group. Looking at the combined numbers from Markets Limited, Plus500 and Ava Trade for 2014 shows a business with approximately $375m of revenues and $198m of EBITDA, with 170,000 customers, 110,000 first time depositors and significant geographic and product diversity, holding seven different regulatory licences in key markets. Taking all of this together, the Financials division represents a healthy and diversified business with significant potential for future growth in a rapidly growing market. SLIDE 19 MARKETS LIMITED: A SINGLE DIVISION We thought it would make sense to give you some insight on how the financials business will look and touch-on some of our operational plans.
6 Although we will run and report the Financials division as a single business segment, we will operate a multi-brand strategy with different brands having different strengths in different territories. We see significant value and growth potential in combining the best of the technologies and offering, and specifically we plan to integrate our best of breed CRM and backend system together with the Plus500 media buying technology and offering. We believe this will cater for a significantly better customer trading experience and can deliver substantial growth across the business. The combination of technologies provides us with the competitive edge in the market, through which we will deliver the platform of choice to retail customers in the space. The combined division will also benefit from centralised back-office infrastructure supporting the wider activity across the business, and a combined marketing strategy that will create efficiencies and optimisation in the way that we attract customers. SLIDE 20 REPORTING OF PERFORMANCE Once all three businesses are under the Playtech umbrella we intend to report financial performance and KPIs for the division as a whole. We intend to disclosure revenues and EBITDA for the Financials division, as well as including the geographic breakdown as part of Playtech group disclosure. In terms of other KPIs, we also intend to report number of active customers, first time depositors and other key metrics, once again, all for the combined financial trading business. SLIDE 21 A DIVERSIFIED BUSINESS Finally from me, this slide illustrates how our entry into the Financials space has significantly diversified Playtech s business which, on a pro-forma basis, represents almost 800m of revenues, 60% of which being regulated, a material increase. As the charts show, the combined group will also be diversified by customer, with no customer being above a single digit as a percentage of revenue. The enlarged group will also be diversified by products and offerings, and also well balanced geographically, with the UK, mainland Europe, Asia and the rest of the world each accounting for approximately a quarter of revenues. I'll now hand over to Mor for his operational and strategic review. MOR WEIZER Thank you Ron and good morning everyone. Before I start we have lots of achievements to talk about, but I was told by Andy Smith, whom you know by now. He told me I have to mention one of the most important achievements in this half, is hopefully this time my presentation will be shorter. So I will try to divert from my traditionally longer presentations and do it quicker, speak faster in other words. The first half of 2015 has been extremely busy and highly successful for Playtech as we have delivered on our strategy of driving growth in our Gaming division whilst augmenting this growth with strategic M&A, transforming Playtech into one of world s largest and leading online software and services providers. Given the three acquisitions that we have committed to in the first half of the year to create the Financials division, it would be easy to forget that Playtech s Gaming division remains the largest part of the Group and our core business and, as Ron has discussed, continues to perform very strongly.
7 It therefore seems appropriate to spend the next 15 minutes or so looking at the drivers of performance in the first half as well as looking at the strengths of the Gaming division including recent innovations to further extend our market leadership. SLIDE 23 KEY DRIVERS OF GAMING PERFORMANCE The first half of the year has seen strong growth across regions and product verticals, with good growth coming from both new business, such as LeoVegas, and existing licensees, such as a 20-year online contract extension with RAY Finland s Slot Machine Association; our customers in the UK that invested into their business ahead of the introduction of POC; and the introduction of slots in Spain earlier this year. This balanced growth illustrates Playtech s ability to improve the business performance of its existing licensees, as well as bringing new licensees into the Playtech fold. Playtech continues to focus on regulated and soon-to-be regulated markets, which have achieved 80% of H1 Gaming growth coming, accounting for 40% of overall H Gaming revenues, up from 35% in H1 last year and 38% in H This growth in regulated markets is a combination of organic growth from existing licensees that are already established in different regulated markets and marketing investments diverted to regulated markets by various operators that traditionally operated in unregulated markets and are still in the transition process a trend we expect to continue in the coming months. SLIDE 24 OPERATIONAL HIGHLIGHTS It has been a busy half operationally and these efforts continue into the second half as we prepare ourselves for certain opportunities that we believe will come to fruition in the coming quarters. We have made further progress with our pioneering ONE technology, which allows players a seamless, anywhere-anytime gaming experience across any product, channel and device all using a single account and single wallet. Sports betting has seen the largest investment as part of the Playtech ONE strategic roadmap and is Playtech s fastest growing product vertical. After the half year end, Playtech announced the launch of its first omni-channel HTML5 front-end solution with Ladbrokes, enabling a seamless, fully responsive and fully adaptive desktop, mobile user experience and a host of unique, new sportsbook features. In a market-first, Ladbrokes s new Playtech Sports HTML5 solution significantly boosted Ladbrokes s sportsbook performance and optimisation capabilities ahead of the English Premier League season. We also made significant progress with our structured agreements partners with Caliente already exceeding our expectations. It further cements our business model which becomes increasingly attractive in various new and soon-to-be-regulated markets. Given the regulatory backdrop, combined with Playtech s unique offering, we see strong positive momentum across Europe, Latin America and elsewhere. Finally, we have been delighted to be able to support both Ladbrokes and Gala Coral, two of our key licensees, in their proposed merger. To assist in providing the flexibility for the combined entity to achieve integration and realise synergies, Playtech has agreed, conditional upon completion of the merger, to accelerate the determination of amounts due to it under its marketing services agreement with Ladbrokes. The sum agreed was 75m, of which 40m will be satisfied by way of the issue of shares in the combined entity on completion with a further guaranteed 35m in cash paid upon delivery by Playtech of key operational milestones but, in any event, within 42 months following completion. In addition, demonstrating its support for the proposed merger, Playtech acted as a cornerstone investor, taking 22.9% of the c.9.99% equity placing announced by Ladbrokes at the time of the announcement of the merger. Subsequent to this, Playtech purchased further shares in Ladbrokes to
8 take its total holding to 9.7% in Ladbrokes plc, further evidencing our strategic alignment with Ladbrokes. SLIDE 25 STRATEGY IN GAMING REMAINS THE SAME Our strategy in the Gaming division remains the same, with the same unrelenting focus on growing the business combined with a specific focus on regulated markets. We made very good progress during the period in each and every element of our strategy. First and foremost, Playtech aims to support the organic growth of its licensees, and I ll speak shortly about some of the ways in which we do this. We also aim to extend the existing relationships we have by cross-selling new products, new services and new territories. In addition to this we look to sign new licensees, either through conventional licensing agreements or through structured agreements, such as joint ventures. Finally, to augment this growth, we look to spend our high levels of cash generated on valueenhancing M&A. SLIDE 26 A UNIQUE OFFERING It s fair to say that Playtech s technology and experience remains unrivalled in the market. Our IMS driven Omni-Channel offering is a key differentiator and unique proposition, and this lead will only be extended through unmatchable resource and investment dedicated to R&D. We have the largest content portfolio in the industry as well as data stretching back many years from over 120 licensees across multiple demographics and geographies which can provide benchmarks and intelligence across the industry. Not only do Playtech s licensees operate best-of-breed technology and products, they also enjoy the added value of industry intelligence the economies of our scale. Finally, we maintain the largest independent liquidity pools in both bingo and poker. SLIDE 27 CONTINUED INNOVATION However there is no room for complacency and we continuously strive to extend our lead, being at the forefront of industry thinking and evolution. Whilst mobile remains a crucial channel and a key part of our strategy, it is yesterday s story. The industry needs to align itself with the information age, and in embracing data getting more from the same harvesting the information that they already have to drive future growth. Omni-Channel has become a buzz-word in the industry, but it s more than just integrating products it s a holistic approach to the way operators service their customers. A customer centric approach is very much in the doing not just in the talking. In simple words: developed, simple products, using the most advanced and sophisticated technologies that offer a seamless journey, irrespective of channel, catering to specific taste of each and every individual player, that is determined automatically based on a combination of more than 20 data elements. SLIDE 28 MAKING BUSINESSES MORE INTELLIGENT AN ENTIRE SUITE OF TOOLS In November last year we held an investor day during which we presented our BIT business intelligence tools framework. BIT is all about information and the intelligence driven from it. But it does not stop there as all of the tools are integrated into the IMS, including marketing and CRM systems
9 and all information and operational flows are fully automated. It does not only alert our customer representatives but takes automatic actions to improve performance and results. On the left hand side of the slide you ll see a list of some of the BIT tools which Playtech offers to enhance its licensees operations. I ll go through a few of these in detail shortly. The tools are designed to increase customer lifetime value, lower churn rates and improve the customer journey. They are based on advanced algorithms and benchmarks against big data from 120 customers with similar profiles data which no other company has access to. I want to come back to some of those and share with you the results so far as we have seen strong results from licensees who have launched some of these tools so far. I will just add that while some of our largest customers already started deploying, they represent only a handful of the full licensee base. SLIDE 29 GAME ADVISOR Looking first at game adviser, it has been designed to improve the customer journey and ensure that the player is being advised of the games that best fit him / her using a fully personalised approach. This is based on a player s characteristics thus increasing life time vale of customers to reduce churn rates The results obtained so far are from over 10,000 unique underlying customers and show a clear uplift in performance, including a 15% to 31% increase in average income per customer. SLIDE 30 CHURN DETECTION Churn detection, as the name would suggest, aims to reduce the churn rates and increase LTV by analysing the probability of customer churn and taking the necessary actions to retain that player. The churn detection tool is integrated into our IMS and, above a certain threshold, it automatically takes actions to ensure the player is retained a loyal customer In testing the accuracy of our analysis, we measure the accuracy of predicting two events - which players will churn and which players will not churn. The accuracy is the percentage of players predicted to leave (who did leave) plus the players predicted to continue playing (who did). The results to date across 15 licensees show a 70% to 80% accuracy rate, which is exceptional. For those of you who may be a little sceptical about how good this number is, it is higher than the accuracy achieved in other industries, such as Telecoms. SLIDE 31 OPTIMISER Our Optimiser tool provides licensees with a tool to run real-time web personalisation and optimisation. With a short and easy integration licensees can run optimisation campaigns within minutes without the need for developers or IT. It goes beyond banners and allows customers to change almost every element on their apps and web. The system then automatically shows different proposed designs, tracks the activity and automatically decides the best designs or campaigns to be shown, without any manual intervention, increasing ROI on invested marketing in the case of campaigns or improving conversion rates of players. The illustration on the bottom is a screenshot of a test run by a Tier 1 licensee who was looking to determine the optimal layout of three different menus on a Mobile screen. SLIDE 32 BI REPORTING AND BENCHMARKING
10 The BI reporting and benchmarking tool provides users with the ability to slice and dice data from various products. The tool collects player data, analyses and aggregates it, and provides a reporting interface to the user. The data can then be benchmarked against other operators (on an anonymous basis) to show how they are performing with a particular game or product. This is just one example of how Playtech s bigdata offering cannot be replicated. It allows operators to identify inefficiencies in certain areas of their business and act on them immediately. SLIDE 33 SMART INSTALLER Finally, smart installer, which has been historically developed together with Crossrider, provides licensees with tool that can increase conversion and prevent churn with each smart installer customised specifically to the requirements of each licensee and their brand. The installer has the capability the run marketing campaigns, survey players, run optimisation tests and is designed to track each and every step of player to ensure they complete the download process. It improves conversion rates from download, to registration to conversion and depositing as it offers the player certain campaigns. The results from one early adopter showed a 69% increase in sign-ups together with a 16% increase in FTDs as a result of using the tool. SLIDE 34 NEW BUSINESS PIPELINE Looking now at our new business pipeline, we see significant opportunities across Central and Eastern Europe, Latin America and Africa with Playtech the natural choice for many licensees, particularly in regulated and soon-to-be-regulated markets. Sports remains an untapped market with significant potential as the gateway to other products. With the deployment of Omni-Channel we see very significant opportunities working closely with our existing licensees in the UK and elsewhere, as well as new prospective licensees in regulated and soon-to-be-regulated jurisdictions. Our ability to offer a full product suite, including Sports, together with a full turnkey solution are key differentiators. SLIDE 35 CAPITAL ALLOCATION M&A remains a key part of our strategy and we have retained the financial flexibility and firepower to move opportunistically and decisively, despite having committed over 1bn on acquisitions in the first half of the year. We will continue to explore M&A to augment organic growth either to strengthen existing positions in key areas, such as Sports, mobile or content; to extend new product areas, such as advanced marketing technologies and capabilities; or to extend our geographical reach. Opportunities could be either larger, strategic deals or bolt-on acquisitions and we have good M&A pipeline in both the Gaming and Financials divisions. That said, as always, we will be mindful to evaluate any opportunity with strict financial and strategic criteria and not lose sight of the integration that follows such acquisitions. SLIDE 36 CURRENT TRADING AND OUTLOOK To summarise, the business is in as strong as position as I have known in my time at Playtech.
11 We have a strong pipeline in our Gaming division and clear plans for our Financials division which we will be putting in place throughout the rest of the year. We have retained the flexibility for further M&A to augment what we expect to be strong organic growth. The performance we have delivered together with the momentum in the business provides me with great confidence in strong growth in 2015 and beyond. So that ends our formal presentation for the morning and we would now be pleased to take your questions. As we are being broadcast this morning, could I please ask that you wait for one of the microphones that we have here? Thank you. Q&A Vaughan Lewis (Morgan Stanley): First one on the white label business. Can you just explain how the revenues and the cost model work for that and is it loss-making at the moment and what sort of medium term margin should we expect for that? Secondly, on the markets business, can you just explain how the hedging actually works there, where the customers are not matched off against each other, how you enter into hedging agreements? And then thirdly, related to that, with them all being amalgamated as one, how will the earn out for trade FX work? Presumably that is all being run as one so it will not have its own P&L and, likewise, with the semi earn out, the option to purchase the remaining shares. Thanks. Ron Hoffman: Okay, so I will start with the white label question obviously. The way that it works is basically that we record on the back of the fact that it is under our license; we are effectively the operator and therefore we record the full, I would say, net gaining revenue as an operator, so we basically take the full top line. Obviously, due to the fact that we have invested heavily, specifically in the second quarter of this year, we invested heavily into marketing initiatives for some of these initiatives, some of these grants, this has had an impact on the margin, this has an impact on the profitability for the first half. It basically will record pretty much the top line of the operator, we record the full cost of the operating in the marketing and our direct cost related to that, and we record its cost, the relevant proportion of the revenues which is attributed to the brand owner, to the customer basically, to what we define as the white label customer. On a net effect right now, we are talking about a loss position for the first half, but this is an interim situation; we see that as an initiative that we believe will obviously become profitable, otherwise we would not have entered into that space. We think it will become profitable within a reasonable period of 12 to 18 months; I think that is very legitimate when it comes to new initiatives in regulated markets, but we obviously see that as a very relevant initiative for us to grow further. There are further B2B or customers on the white label arrangement that we are discussing right now that will augment this part of the business, going forward, if those will come through. And we see that as a very relevant part of our business, not all of them are newly established brands; some of them are actually existing brands which have already some power to the brand already. The Daily Mirror, by the way, is a great example of that, but it is still in an investment stage at this point. With respect to the market s hedging, the way that the book is run, I would say that 99% of the cases and most of the instruments you will see the natural hedging position, meaning due to the fact that our customers are not institutional customers, they are retail customers. An average lifetime customer, we are not talking about millions, we are talking about an average deposit will be a few hundred or a few thousand, nothing too dramatic. The exposure to customers is not big by definition, and due to the fact that we enjoy big volumes and a lot of customers, we enjoy the fact that we have significant trades on both sides of the book, I would say. They are very specific areas that we monitor and cases which we monitor obviously in real-time basis where we see certain instruments with certain risk
12 profile of customers that we see that as sort of a riskier position, not in all cases but in some cases, and therefore in these cases we may look to hedge. We did that in the past. It never arrived to any significant level historical given the fact that it is most of the time naturally hedged. With respect to the earn outs, given basically the full completion of all these three transactions, the way that we account for that is there is, I would say, a hit on the cost of the acquisitions to the measurement of the EBITDA of the business, meaning we take the full EBITDA measurement of the combined business and we sort of attribute to that the relevant proportion of the cost of the consideration that we paid for these businesses, so obviously once they manage to grow that business they enjoy the synergies of the combination of them. Richard Carter (Deutsche Bank): Can you just confirm that the 40% pay-out ratio is a medium-term target and not just for this year and, secondly, on the constant currency numbers, it feels like you have lost a bit of operational gearing in the business, and so could you just talk a little bit about that versus the revenue growth down to EBITDA and is that just that you are investing in all these things you have been showing us, so will that start to reverse going forward, like it has historically? Then also on FX, could you also talk a little bit about the FX impact and talk a little bit about costs and how we should think about the costs being impacted by FX going forward, and, then just finally, you have talked about having a 10% stake in Ladbrokes this morning in the statement, and obviously you paid a materially higher price, can you say if you would look to increase the stake? Ron Hoffman: Okay, so the 40% pay-out is our policy, so it is not just confirmation for this year; this is a sustainable policy that we believe will continue going forward. Basically I would say on the question on the margin, there are a few areas in the business that we see that as an investment stage, the white label arrangement is just one of those. Once we extract the external influences including the POC tax, obviously which is from a growth perspective, it is influencing only this year and not next year because it will be on the same basis next year, but from a margin perspective, obviously, it has an impact because most of it is simply Richard Carter: Constant currency being stripped out of these things, it is just historically you have tended to get leverage from growth to the bottom line and obviously there is no sort of underlying leverage, so I am just wondering, excluding those things you have already laid out, is there anything additional costs that you have put into the business in the first half where the run rate on those costs will start to reduce? Ron Hoffman: The most significant part we have at the bigger investment is with respect to the white label arrangement. Other than that, we believe that the margin even with that, we believe the margin will enjoy growth as the growth of the white label arrangement will become more profitable. Obviously this has a negative impact on that. We believe it will be higher than the 40% margin that you see right now, but it is definitely a sufficient margin level that will enable us to continue to gear up and invest more into our product and offering; we are not talking about a dramatic drop in our margin altogether. Richard Carter: You have not told us, but you have invested, I assume, quite a bit into the business intelligence over the last six to twelve months, and you have not really talked about what the revenue model is there and how many customers have taken that product, so is there an element of upfront investment in that side of the business, and going forward we are going to actually see a bit of catch up in terms of the revenue from that investment. Mor Weizer: I will say that we obviously always have certain initiatives internally; in the past we had the focus on the IMS then we turned it into the Playtech One initiative, the only channel initiatives. Now we put a lot of efforts around data and information. These investments were already made; it is now just deploying more of those tools that I presented earlier this morning to our customers. As I indicated, only 15 of the largest customers deployed and not all of them deployed everything, so we see a very, very significant uplift expected from the deployment of these tools. When taking the grand scheme of things, the investment made into this is an ongoing investment and it is very limited. I will say that the impact that you all saw in the first half was mainly due to the white label arrangements, given the early stage and given the introduction of the point of consumption tax in the UK, it is very
13 much focused on the UK, with certain initiatives, with certain customers. Trinity Mirror was another good example. I will say, however, just to bring it into context and to give you some perspectives, if you look at our peer group and not just our peer group; if you look at our customers, when they report the numbers, a lot of those are obviously public companies, they talk about declines in revenues, they talk about declines in profitability in the shorter term, hoping that they will be able to further grow it, and some even consider merging in order to create a combined group that can grow going forward. This is done on the back of the structural change that we talked about. We always said, privately and publicly, to many of you, and others, that we do believe that in the second half of this year, it is not the first half because people enjoy the benefits of increased marketing last year, those that are coming to fruition now will finish some time later this year, and then people need to reinvent themselves and therefore people think and try to be innovative in order to create scale and position in the market. But still they will show declines in profitability and revenues. We believe that we were fortunate; we have the margins, the resources, the technologies and capabilities in order to establish ourselves under the white label arrangement that we believe in the medium/long term, will be very beneficial and profitable for us, and therefore we decided to invest into that in the first half. It is not about the ongoing investments into BIT or other parts of the business; it is marginal compared to those. And given our experience, any such investment into our business developing new initiatives, such as the white label, will have big returns for Playtech hence our shareholders. So, I would say it is mostly around white labels and similar investments, new verticals, and we believe that over time we use obviously the high margin and, as Ron mentioned earlier, it was run when you strip that out on a 45+%, which is in line with last year, and over time we definitely expect the margins to continue or to grow and increase in the coming quarters. Ron Hoffman: Yes, on the question on the impact of the effects on our cost basis, when we look at the operating cost itself, I would exclude the POC just to give it on a like for like basis, with the currency effect implemented into that, we were talking about a growth of 32% excluding the constant currency. On a constant currency basis we are talking about 24% so that effect would be the 8% growth in expenses on the back of the exchange rates, but obviously we have the reverse effect of the fact that we enjoy the finance income from the FX gains, which is impacting growth in our net profit, which grew around 40% when we exclude the acquisitions and the POC tax. So it is one against the other, but from an operational perspective we are talking about an 8% impact altogether. Mor Weizer: And on Ladbrokes, this is not a pure investment for the sake of investment; we are not an investment company. I will say that we took the opportunity to partake in the placing in order to demonstrate our support to two of our largest licensees. I will remind you that they, amongst all of our licensee portfolio, have the most comprehensive contract in terms of number of products, including actually everything, including retail only channel, casino, poker, bingo, mobile, sports or, in other words, everything except the core sport system. It was to demonstrate our support to the company and align our interest, given the fact that these are two of the most two very, very important accounts for Playtech. We also see value in Ladbrokes and we would expect to help them to accelerate the growth, even before the merger and definitely soon after, to allow them to realise the synergies between the two companies. By the way, this is with regards to Ladbrokes; it is the same with Paddy Power and Betfair. In their case, obviously, we see a lot of opportunities for both groups; we see two complementing businesses coming together and we expect to remain and strengthen our relationship with both groups, finding more ways to accelerate the growth of the combined group of Betfair and Paddy Power. Richard Stuber (Nomura): Just a few questions, first of all going back to the BIT thing, in terms of monetising the investment, is there any sort of change in the rev share or would you basically expect to have higher absolute revenue share because they are benefiting from your licensees? The second question is on the Plus500 completion; I know that the Plus500 share price is slightly lower than the 4 you have offered. In terms of the actual completion stats from now on, exactly what are the hurdles required and how confident are you that it all should go through very smoothly? Also on the
14 financial side, obviously, it is a couple of months since you announced the acquisition; could you give any more guidance in terms of potential synergies from putting the three businesses together? Thank you. Mor Weizer: Yes, I will start by answering the first question about the BIT model; obviously it is in our best interest and there is a long internal debate within Playtech how much we charge. Obviously we invested heavily into that; we introduced and integrated certain third party systems in order to further accelerate. There are certain other companies that specialise in data analysis and those were integrated, so there was a direct cost associated with that, but as I said, it was very marginal. However, I will say there is a long debate internally how we charge it; some say simply give it to licensees, it will grow the revenues you will enjoy from that. But our licensees do acknowledge the fact that there was a big investment into that. We tell them, Try that; see the numbers growing, and we will have the conversation. The business model; I do not think that you will see a significant increase in our revenues from charging directly for BIT, although we intend to charge, it will be minimal compared to the overall opportunity of growing the revenues. Our role is to basically ensure that we have, I would say, a return on invested resources, as we call it internally, a decent one, but the main goal is for our customers to adopt it as quickly as possible, enjoy the growth, understand that they need to align themselves with the information age, the results, as it was very evident from the Coral numbers, speak for themselves. It is a true reflection of the Omni challenge and information capabilities of Playtech, and we expect to do that across the board with other licensees. Ron Hoffman: With respect to the question on the synergies between the three acquisitions, I would say we believe there are significant more towards the revenue synergies rather than cost synergies; there are some cost synergies as well on the back of the infrastructure, and sharing the infrastructure, or the back office infrastructure between these businesses, so we will have one team that will handle all KYC and AML basically procedures, to pretty much servicing the three brands across the various licenses that they hold. Although they may need to adjust themselves in order to accommodate different requirements from different regulators, so that may have a certain impact on the level of synergy that we can enjoy from that. But I would say it is more towards efficiencies in revenue by way of introducing our CRM and backend capabilities together with the offering that we have today from Plus and [inaudible] markets today as well, that we believe will simply improve the customer experience altogether. We will basically integrate those systems; we will test that, we will see how the customers react to that, we will see whether this can drive lifetime value to exceed where it is, the level that it has today. On top of that, we will enjoy the fact that we can deliver more efficient marketing strategies, so when we look at certain markets that we have some overlap, we will not bid for the same, you know, being first on Google for all three brands, and therefore bid against ourselves; we will do that in an efficient way that will enable us to enjoy the fact that we have all these three brands and we will use the strength of the brands in the markets that they are stronger in, that will enable us to have more fire power and invest more into marketing altogether, and have a better marketing efficiency across the brands. Mor Weizer: It is a very diversified business in terms of products, instruments, I mean, and geography, so the ability to basically pick and choose where we would like to spend and which brand is stronger in certain jurisdictions is a very, very efficient way of operating a multi-brand operation. And on the completion of Plus, just for me to get clarification, you were asking about the completion process with the FCA and the regulators? Currently it is under process; we provided all the relevant information and we are at the end of the day just waiting to get the approval. We do not believe there are any hurdles right now; we have indication that there are no outstanding questions for us altogether. We have run through a very thorough process with them; we had a lot of back and forth with questions and requirements. We believe that we are in a good position and we are waiting to hear the answer. Simon Davies (Canaccord Genuity): Three from me, please. Firstly you have given pro forma figures for the three combined financial trading businesses, which did an EBITDA margin last year of 53%, obviously plus 500 is going to have to invest quite heavily in regulatory infrastructure but you
15 also talked about synergy benefits. Where do you think the margin for those combined businesses should settle on a three- to five-year view? Secondly on TFX, revenue is down by 5% in May and June, but that was in US dollars; can you give us a constant currency figure? Finally there seems to have been some delay in terms of Plus500 being able to on-board new customers; are you still confident that they will be in a position to do that by the time you complete the deal at the end of September? Ron Hoffman: Sure, I will start with the margin. We believe that the healthy margin for the combined business altogether, given, I would say, both taking into account the marketing initiatives but also us driving the business forward and growing the marketing budget going forward, given the scale of the business and the infrastructure in order to basically operate a back office, I would say, offering for seven different licenses across the world, across different markets, we believe that the healthy margin is at a level in the area of 45%, give or take. Obviously it is volatile and dependent on the volatility in the market, so there are certain periods that it can be lower or higher. We believe this is sort of the healthy long-term margin of such a business going forward. On current trading on constant currency, I would say we are talking about approximately a level of 7% or 8% growth on a constant currency basis for the current trading. Simon Davies: Trade FX. Ron Hoffman: Sorry, this is for the gaming division. For Trade FX, and when we look at current trading, I think we basically looked at the performance, and obviously there is a lot of volatility in July and August this year, given the markets have changed dramatically in both Dow Jones in China, and a lot of different factors affecting the markets, and it is very hard to compare short periods to comparable years previously where these events are just basically there is no logic whether that event happens in July or August or September, so it is very hard to compare that on a like for like basis. Obviously, July and August this year are very, very strong, but we believe that the right way to measure that is based on the KPI, is based on the growth of the active customer, is based on the growth of the number of customers that we drive towards the business. These are the real drivers of the business, and for the long-term perspective, yes, there will be periods of more volatility and less volatility, but these are the real drivers that give more insight on the growth of the business, going forward, and I think we have indicated some very strong current trading results for the first 55 days of Q3. On the on-boarding process of Plus500, basically they have completed the processes with the first skill person and the second skill person, they are now doing their own, I would say, voluntary process with the second skill person as a consultant, basically, to go through a full review of the on-boarding processes in the UK from scratch, an A to Z review of the business on all of its aspects. This is currently underway and they have indicated that that process should end by the end of the quarter, and they believe they will start on-boarding new customers onto their UK license following the completion of that process. Ed Birkin (Credit Suisse): Just in terms of that gaming constant currency growth, for the white label effects we assume it is about 4% of that, similar to H1. Secondly, can you talk about potential sports headwind next year with a couple of your licensees announcing recently they are moving to proprietary mobile front end? Finally, I still do not really understand the rationale for the 10% stake in Ladbrokes. As far as I assume you have got strategic alignment with all your licensees through the fact you have revenue share, and if it is in terms of getting synergies, surely a safer way would be structuring something similar to the 75 million pay-out you have where you get some savings there, because if your investors wanted to invest in a public company, they could do it themselves. Thank you. Ron Hoffman: Sorry, I just need you to repeat the first question on the constant currency growth again, apologies. Ed Birkin: So, the 7% to 8% constant currency is about half of that the white label impact which we saw in H1, there is about 4% growth from white label, so if you stripped out white labels, is that getting to about 4%?
16 Ron Hoffman: The white label was actually started in Q3 last year, so it is on the same basis; there is no impact of no white label activity in the comparable period. Ed Birkin: Okay, thank you. Mor Weizer: On the sports, you referred to the headwinds in the market as indicated by the sport betting operators, basically what we see is still a very strong and significant growth in terms of number of accounts which represent given the fact that most of our activity this is very UK specific, and I will say that we definitely see them growing the number of accounts, the number of players that they manage to attract, regardless of the results, even if there are headwinds in terms of Ed Birkin: [Inaudible] proprietary technology. Mor Weizer: Sorry, my apologies, I thought that you referred to something else. We basically, as we indicated in the past, we see ourselves as a strategic partner to these businesses; we have capabilities that are unique to Playtech, not least the Omni channel strategy, which is a very important and critical element of our strategy, going forward, bringing together retail, online web and online mobile, improving the customer journey. Most people will tell you we are a customer centric organisation but they do not really do that, so as I indicated in my presentation, it is about the doing rather than the talking, and we put a lot of effort into that which puts us in a very unique position and I do not think that other companies can do that, given the fact that their infrastructure is outsourced, and I think that replacing the current infrastructure and integrating those to retail will be almost mission impossible for them and will take years for them to realise that and do that. On the other hand, you have the information part, which I talked about, the BIT tools; a fully personalised front end solution that embeds within that a lot of intelligence tools that analyse, aggregate the information analyse it and then automatically suggest certain steps in order to increase lifetime values and lower churn rates. And do that in a way of benchmarking between an operator and similar operators operating in the same market with the same characteristics, which is again unique; no other company has access to so much data across different product verticals, across different operators in a market. I will say, however, and we welcome that, that people, given the increasing competitive landscape, again specifically in the UK, people are looking for ways to differentiate; it is becoming harder and harder for them and partly this is why there were two very big consolidation events or proposed mergers earlier I mean one yesterday and one a few weeks ago in order to create more scale and position. They need to differentiate themselves; they need to create a scale in order to reposition themselves in the UK market. It is not a surprise or a coincidence that those are very, very UK centric customers; these are not very diversified businesses across many jurisdictions and with increased competition people would like to differentiate themselves, and our role is to basically be the infrastructure Omni channel, front end intelligence providing them access to the best and largest liquidity pools in poker and bingo, providing them with access to the largest portfolio of content, with progressives that are shared across 120 customers worldwide, and at the same time provide them also with flexibility to differentiate themselves. What people refer mainly to and talk about is ways to differentiate and we welcome that and we have certain initiatives in place to ensure that what they develop internally, whether it is games or certain niche products, will be integrated on top of our platform, making our platform an open platform so they will not only enjoy from these key differentiators that will allow them to go and do marketing and attract more players, but also gain the benefits of our work doing intelligence around those games and around those new products that they launch. Ed Birkin: Maybe I m missing something, but I thought on the William Hill statement for instance, they said they were moving off Mobenga, so I just wanted to know what that headwind would be to your sports; is that not the case? Mor Weizer: Yes, Mobenga is a very, very small element of sports; it is the front end element; it is something that we believe today we do best, as it is evident by the numbers of customers of Playtech operating it. We embedded certain tools; we did it in a way that is fully responsive, fully adaptive across web and mobile. We can do the same by the way in the shops so people can have tablets in the shops or even self-service betting terminals; it will look the same and will feel the same and it will
17 be seamless between retail and online and web, so we definitely believe that there are certain advantages. Obviously William Hill thinks that if they take over the front end, and again which is a very small piece of the pie in terms of sports book, they will be able to introduce certain things that are unique and that will allow them to differentiate. We believe that we secured our opposition with some other very large accounts, going forward, and we definitely see mobile sports, yes, William Hill decided to do that internally, others indicated to us that they actually wanted to strengthen their relationship with Playtech, working together on the front end to ensure that it is fully integrated into the IMS and our platform, and I referred to that earlier: we launched the industry first, fully responsive, fully adaptive HTML five solution for Ladbrokes earlier this year, and after the end of the first half, and we definitely think that it will be very evident going forward that this will have a very clear and significant impact on the capability to do a lot of things themselves, differentiate and which will allow us to continue and ensure that mobile sports betting is sustainable and most companies will remain with us and we will attract new customers. Ed Birkin: Ladbrokes Mor Weizer: Yes, on Ladbrokes, as I indicated, I think that Ladbrokes given our relationship with Ladbrokes, given the services agreement, given what we experience, we believe that Ladbrokes, as I said, there was an opportunity for us to align the interests; it is different different stage of development when compared to other companies, it secures our positions, it aligns the interests in terms of what should be done. Remember that in terms of development there are certain very important and big initiatives, significant initiatives for them going forward, whether it is multichannel platform, mobile and maybe even other areas of the business that we are interested in, and we believe that our stake will position us to ensure that we will strengthen the relationship, we will cement the relationship post-merger and will allow us to align the interests between us and the combined group. Tal Grant (UBS Investment Bank): Just wondering if you are seeing any impacts from your clients customers in Asia, given what is going on over there; China/Asia in general, that is the first question. Mor Weizer: Yes, the answer is no, we do not see any impact from any of our licensees; I assume that you refer to certain headlines that were picked up by the press. Obviously they refer to certain activities that Playtech is not involved in. Tal Grant: Okay, but I mean not even that, just generally what is going on with the macro sort of situation there? Mor Weizer: We do not see any change and Asia continues to grow for us. We see stronger growth in regulated markets, as we indicated this morning, but we definitely see still continued strong growth in Asia. Tal Grant: Okay, and then in terms of your contracts, do you have any ending or up for renewal in the next couple of years, and is Holland Casino still going ahead Q1 16? Mor Weizer: Yes, obviously with Holland Casino it is dependent on the regulations, I can assure you that as soon it will be introduced Playtech will be the first with Holland Casino, and we will put a lot of efforts to ensure that this is indeed the case and there is a close cooperation between the two groups, developing ideas, and even discussing certain initiatives ahead of the introduction of the new regulations, so definitely this is in place. Tal Grant: And any contracts up for renewal in the next year? Mor Weizer: Other big contracts that are up for renewal, as you know, William Hill is up for renewal but it will take some time before it will be finished, but discussions will happen I believe in the coming quarters. Certain initial discussions already started and as they indicated, we are keen to extend the relationships and strengthen the relationship with William Hill. Other big licensees, there are one or two other licensees but again their contribution is limited and therefore they are still considered a very big licensee for us, but the contribution is limited.
18 Tal Grant: Okay, and then just going back to the Plus500 hurdles; could you just remind us which anti-trust authorities have to sign off the deals and is it all regulators have to sign it off as well? Ron Hoffman: Yes, so from an anti-trust perspective, it s the Cypriot anti-trust regulator that needs to approve it, according to the process that we are going through right now. This is expected to be approved quite shortly. And with respect to the regulators, it is approval by two regulators out of the three that they have today. In Australia it is a notification process rather than an approval process, but in the UK and in Cyprus it is a full change of control process. Tal Grant: Okay, thank you. Simon French (Sancos): Morning, just one on Trade FX, initially, in the back of the pack it says that it would have contributed about 12.2 million EBITDA if you had had it for the first full six months which is a margin of about 28%, so I am just wondering how you get from 28 to 45 over the medium term and whether you have to assume a certain level of implied volatility in the market to get there. Then last time we met we spent quite a bit of time talking about Caliente, Gazzetta Dello Sport, Trinity Mirror; can you just give us an update on how those structured agreements are performing please? Ron Hoffman: Sure, so on the plus numbers, basically the second quarter in the year was a very, very slow quarter, it was a very quiet quarter, the markets were, I would say, tranquil, is that the right word? So, obviously that impacts volumes because volatility not only generates the revenues but it also drives a lot of customers to trade more, if they want to obviously sort of beat the market and generate the profits on the back of the volatility in the market. So that has impact in those types of periods but when you take a longer type of view, looking at, I would say on average, annual volatility in markets and instruments and foreign exchange payers and commodities, altogether there is sort of an averaging, I would say, effect on a longer period. Therefore we believe that we cannot just look at very specific periods where the markets are very quiet; we cannot just look on the other side at very volatile periods as well and assume because these are coming with dramatically higher margins, and that is on the other side of the scale, I would say, and therefore I believe the 45% margin is sort of the right healthy average for such a business on a long-term perspective, from our own analysis of the business and the way that we believe it should be run. Mor Weizer: Yes, on this budget agreement I would say we are very happy with the results so far. As we indicated earlier, there are certain investments made in the first period in order to ensure that the brands will turn into an online gaming well recognised brand. This is less the case with Caliente because it is a gaming operator; it is more the case about Gazzetta Dello Sport and Trinity Mirror. I am not suggesting that it does not perform well; it performs very well in accordance with our expectations. I will say however that given the strength of the Caliente brand and its presence in Mexico, it exceeds our expectations significantly; we are very happy with the progress made so far; it was a phased migration approach that started with certain products in the online environment. We are now in the process of delivering our retail, creating an Omni channel solution across the board. So, not only it exceeds our expectations so far, we have certain initiatives in place that will come to fruition later this year, towards the end of this year, beginning of next, that will not only drive new royalty or new revenues for Playtech from a royalty software perspective, but we believe will create Omni channel opportunities for Caliente, and we definitely expect it to further accelerate next year and become quite significant. We always indicated that, out of the three, Caliente will happen quicker than others, given the presence that they have, but we are very happy with Trinity Mirror and Gazzetta Dello Sport and we have certain initiatives of increasing marketing and introducing new products. It did not go unnoticed by various other competitors of Trinity Mirror and Gazzetta Dello Sport in the UK, Italy and outside, and, as I indicated earlier, we definitely have a pipeline of structured agreements. There are more than 15 countries opening up. Our success providing software and services was picked up by various well recognised media groups and gaming operators and we definitely intend to continue growing these businesses and replicate their success in new jurisdictions across, I would say, Europe, Central Eastern Europe and Latin America specifically.
19 Speaker: Morning guys, just a quick one, normalised margin of white label revenue going forward, EBITDA margin, what should we expect? Just if you can answer them one at a time, I ve got five or six questions. Ron Hoffman: I would say naturally a white label arrangement will be closer to an operator s type of business, so I would say it will come at around a margin of 25% or so for, I would say, a healthy steady growing white label arrangement around this level. Speaker: Okay, and then just on current trading, just regarding the 7% to 8%, so that is constant currency. If we strip out Yoyo games and Aristocrat, so ex-acquisitions. Ron Hoffman: So this is ex-acquisitions and ex-poc, meaning also this is the constant [inaudible] on an underlying basis. Speaker: Like for like? Ron Hoffman: Yes. Speaker: 7% to 8%, so that adds back POC? Ron Hoffman: Correct. Speaker: Okay, and then can you just give us an indication of Asian growth? Normally you basically give us rest of world, Europe and Asia when you give us the growth rates. Ron Hoffman: Yes, basically I think it is in the R&S unless I am mistaken, but just in case it is not, on a constant currency basis, Asia grew approximately 15% or so. Mor Weizer: Just to give you the comfort, we do believe that the business model of Playtech supports an underlying double digit growth in terms going forward. The 7% and 8% is impacted by various elements and certain transition that our licensees are going through, whether it is in the UK and elsewhere. The markets in the UK are becoming more competitive; it s not just the POC because 7% and 8% strip that, or take that into consideration but the market is up; we took a big hit for that, but on an ongoing basis, the business model of Playtech definitely supports a double digit growth and this is a very, very important message for us to send to you and others, so given the initiatives that we have underway already, a lot of those already secured. Speaker: Okay, thanks. So, just regarding the one times net debt to EBITDA, just quickly, does that include the convertible or exclude the convertible? So does it treat it as equity or debt? Ron Hoffman: We see the convertible as equity at this point; we believe it is very deep in the money, we do not believe it will end up becoming other than the fact that from an accounting perspective it is recorded as a liability, we believe it is very far from being actually repaid as debt. Speaker: Okay, and then just going back to the Asian question, if it grew at 15% and 80% of your revenue growth was from regulated markets, can you just explain that because there must be something else in the works? Ron Hoffman: The 15% is on an underlying Speaker: That is on a constant currency basis? Ron Hoffman: Yes. Speaker: So adding the appreciation, the one, we are talking about an extra 18%, so that is 33% growth, which means if you are talking about 80% growth in regulated markets, I am trying to work out what else has happened, because obviously Asia s unregulated, it grew at 33% so what else happened? Ron Hoffman: By the way there is a portion in Asia which is regulated with respect to some of the activity with IGS, which is fully regulated in the Philippines with a customer which is fully licensed, but it is irrespective of that. The.com is affected by, I would say, growth in Asia and the transition in
20 Europe, meaning it has a negative impact on the transition in Europe to regulations, so where we see regulated revenues growing, obviously the other side of that would be the.com activity decreasing over time as it transitions to regulated formats. Mor Weizer: So in other words Asia is growing, regulated markets are growing on the back of new initiatives, and certain operators that move from unregulated to regulated, so you see a drop in unregulated markets moving towards regulated income streams, which we welcome and encourage our customers to do because at the end of the day when you look at the underlying performance of the company, you can see clearly that it is very beneficial for the company and this is the experience we had in various other markets. The reality of it is that when people move from unregulated to regulated, they simply take all the marketing they invested, and they put it and they invest it into regulated markets where they generate revenues. For them, initially, it is hard in terms of profitability but our business model is, obviously, take a share of the revenues generated so obviously extremely beneficial for Playtech. Brian Deller[?]: Morning guys, you mentioned the performance of land-based gambling was helped by IGS set up fees, could you give us an idea of what the underlying growth would have been like without the setup fees and then what s the margin in land-based gambling like compared to the rest of the core gambling business? Ron Hoffman: Without the setup fees specifically, the setup fees were around 1.5 million so it is not a dramatic contributor to the growth altogether. Brian Deller: Just on the margin in land-based gambling compared to the rest of the core gambling business, what is that like? Ron Hoffman: We call it land based but it is not really land-based, it is not as if we are actually selling the machines themselves where we are, it is a software business just like in the rest of our business, we are selling the technology which powers the [inaudible] and it is technology just like any other. It comes at the same margin of the entire Playtech group. Speaker: Sorry, just one question, in the back of the statement you say that markets.com made no contribution in terms of EBITDA in the months you owned it and you talk about that is because the low volatility in the market, so because we have had extremely high volatility, would you say that you have managed to get most of that profit back that you lost, in terms of those first two months so we should not really be reducing our numbers down for the year? Ron Hoffman: That is correct. The fact that we had low volatility Speaker: So you just had a bigger Q3 versus your expectations of Q2? Ron Hoffman: Correct, it is the events driven in the market. By the way, there was profitability in the first two months, it was just minimal, but other than that it is obviously low profitability in the third quarter. Speaker: And is sort of two million about the right ballpark figure that you would have expected to make in May and June in terms of EBITDA? Ron Hoffman: As contributors to EBITDA? Speaker: Yes. Ron Hoffman: We do not split that at this point but the answer is lower than that. Speaker: Okay. Alan Jackson: Good, thank you all very much. Perhaps we should have developed a binary option for how long this would take. Perhaps next time we can offer you something like that. Thank you all very much for coming along, and I am sure that Mor and Ron, if there are any individual sort of questions before you go off to the next session, you would be very welcome to come and have a chat. Thank you all very much. See you tomorrow.
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