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1 FILE NO WORLD TRADE CENTER TASK FORCE INTERVIEW EMT PAUL ADAMS INTERVIEW DATE NOVEMBER 2001 TRANSCRIBED BY NANCY FRANCIS

2 LIEUTENANT RADENBERG TODAY NOVEMBER LIT 2001 IM PAUL RADENBERG OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CITY OF NEW YORK THE TIME IS NOW 0647 HOURS AND IM CONDUCTING AN INTERVIEW WITH EMT PAUL ADAMS PAUL ADAMS BATTALION 49 SHIELD NO 2212 LIEUTENANT RADENBERG WERE CURRENTLY AT EMS BATTALION 49 THIS INTERVIEW IS REGARDING THE EVENTS OF SEPTEMBER 11TH 2001 ASSIGNED TO THE JOB PAUL IF YOU COULD START WITH WHEN YOU WERE YES THAT MORNING WE GOT THE JOB AT APPROXIMATELY 900 OCLOCK IN THE MORNING FROM ELMHURST HOSPITAL WE CAME DOWN QUEENS BOULEVARD WE SAW ONE OF THE TOWERS HAD BEEN HIT ENGULFED IN SMOKE WE GOT ACROSS THE MIDTOWN TUNNEL WE WENT IN THE TUNNEL CAME OUT WE CAME DOWN SECOND AVENUE SOUTH GOT OVER TO BROADWAY WE GOT TO THE SITE AT 915 AT CHURCH AND VESEY STREET WHERE WE PARKED THE VEHICLE WE WALKED DOWN TO FULTON AND CHURCH WHERE THEY HAD TRIAGE SET UP IN FRONT OF THE MILLENIUM HOTEL AT THAT TIME THE SECOND PLANE HAD JUST HIT JUST PRIOR TO OUR ARRIVAL WE WERE ASKED IF WE HAD OUR TRIAGE TAGS BY OUR CAPTAIN AT THIS TIME JUST TURNED AROUND

3 PEOPLE WERE WALKING CUIT OF THE BUTI1DINIG WE GRABBED ONE PATIENT WHO WE FOUND OUT LATER HAD 70 PERCENT BURNS ON HER BODY SECOND AND THIRD DEGREE BURNS WE TOOK HER COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE AND SHOT OUT OF THERE WENT UP CANT REMEMBER THE STREET WE WENT UP BUT ENDED UP GOING TO IT WAS THE WRONG WAY FACING BROADWAY IN FRONT OF ST VINCENTS ME AND MY PARTNER WE GOT HER OUT WITH SOME OTHER PEOPLE THEN WE WENT BACK IN BACK TO THE SITE BACK TO THE SAME AREA THE TRIAGE AND ABOUT FIVE MINUTES LATER WE LOOKED UP WE WERE SCREAMING LOOKED UP SEE ONE OF THE BUILDINGS COMING DOWN RAN ABOUT 30 FEET FOUND OUT LATER ON WENT UP AGAINST TRIPPED OVER FIRE HOSE LOST SIGHT OF MY PARTNER MOUS DIAZ GOT UP AND WENT UP AGAINST WHAT FOUND OUT NOW IS THE MILLENIUM HOTELS PARKING LOT GARAGE GATE IT WAS CLOSED IT HAD LIKE FOOT OVERHANG WAS WITH THIS FBI AGENT AND PUT MY HELMET OVER MY FACE AND JUST STOOD AGAINST THE GATE AND TOOK QUICK LOOK AND HERE COMES THE DEBRIS FROM ALL THE BUILDING IT LASTED FOR ABOUT TEN MINUTES COULDNT BREATHE MY LUNGS WERE FILLING UP WITH THIS STUFF DONT KNOW WHAT IT WAS THOUGHT WAS GOING TO DIE EITHER THE BUILDING DEBRIS WAS GOING TO HIT ME OR THE

4 BUTILDIRIG WA UNDER WA GOING TO COLLAJME OR MY 1URIG WERE GOING TO COLLAPSE WAS HYPERVENTILATING JUST THOUGHT TO MYSELF IVE GOT TO SLOW MY BREATHING DOWN DID THAT AND THATS THE ONLY THING THAT SAVED ME ABOUT CLOSE TO TEN MINUTES LATER THE DUST STARTS DISSIPATING GRABBED THE FBI AGENT AND STARTED ANOTHER VEHICLE THAT WAS LIKE 20 FEET AWAY PUT HIM IN IT SAID ILL BE BACK IN MINUTE WENT AROUND GOT SIX SEVEN EIGHT OTHER PEOPLE PUT THEM IN THE TRUCK AND THEN WENT BACK TO THE SITE LOOKING FOR MY PARTNER MOUS LOOKED AROUND FOR COUPLE MINUTES DIDNT HEAR NOTHING NO REACTION SO SHOT OUT OF THERE HAD THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS ON FOR ABOUT FOUR FIVE BLOCKS IT WAS STILL CLOUDY OUT DUST DROPPED THESE PATIENTS OFF AT ST VINCENTS AND THEN WENT BACK IN IN THE PROCESS OF GOING BACK IN NO CAME DOWN AND BY THE TIME GOT THERE THEY HAD ALREADY COMPLETELY TOTALLY YOU KNOW IT WAS COLLAPSED JUST WENT BACK IN GOT LIKE ANOTHER SIX SEVEN EIGHT PEOPLE OUT HAD THEM IN THE FRONT SEAT OF THE VEHICLE HAD ONE GUY RIDING ON THE HOOD OF THE TRUCK GOT THEM TO ST VINCENTS DUMPED THEM

5 CUIT THERE KNOW ITS IIITTY WORD TO BUTT THATS JUST WHAT IT WAS JUST GET THEM IN AND GET THEM OUT DIDNT TAKE NO NAMES OR NOTHING EXCEPT FOR THE ORIGINAL FIRST ONE THE BURN PATIENT THERE WAS JUST NO TIME TO BE FILLING OUT PAPERWORK OR ANYTHING ELSE WENT BACK IN AGAIN AFTERWARDS LOOKING FOR MY PARTNER LOOKING FOR CARLOS LILLO AND HES GONE NOW FOUND MY PARTNER ABOUT FOUR FIVE HOURS LATER AND WENT OVER TO WHERE THEY HAD ANOTHER TRIAGE AREA ON WEST SIDE HIGHWAY AND BELIEVE IT WAS VESEY BY THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE WAS CHECKED OUT IN THE AMBULANCE OVER THERE AND WAS FINE CAME BACK OUT AND ABOUT FIVE HOURS LATER WENT TO MOUNT SINAI HOSPITAL WHERE THEY KEPT ME FOR LIKE FOUR HOURS DID TESTS HAD BRUISES ON MY KNEES MY SHOULDER WAS HURT KILLING ME CONSTANT COUGH AND THATS IT WHEN YOU FIRST GOT THERE YOU PARKED YOUR VEHICLE UP ON VESEY ON CHURCH AND VESEY YES IT WAS AT THAT POINT ROUGHLY THAT THE SECOND TOWER GOT HIT RIGHT AS YOU PULLED UP INITIALLY WHICH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST ONE

6 YES WHEN YOU FIRST GOT TO THE CENIE THE SECOND TOWER GOT HIT LEARNED BELIEVE AS WE WERE UNDER THE MIDTOWN TUNNEL OH OKAY ALL RIGHT IT WAS ABOUT 911 OR SOMETHING 912 THE SECOND ONE THE SECOND PLANE HIT OKAY WHEN YOU GOT OVER HERE INTO CHURCH AND VESEY AND FULTON ANY OTHER EMS UNITS OVER THERE YES WE HAD THE MEDICS THEY FOLLOWED US FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THEY FOLLOWED US FROM ELMHURST HOSPITAL WE GOT THE JOBS TOGETHER AND WE BOTH WENT 49 VICTOR 49 VICTOR YES OKAY CARLOS LILLO WHOS NOW GONE WE BOTH FOLLOWED EACH OTHER IN ALL THE WAY THROUGH FROM ELMHURST RIGHT INTO DOWNTOWN WHEN WE GOT OFF AT VESEY AND CHURCH WE PARKED THE VEHICLES RIGHT THERE AS FAR AS OTHER VEHICLES AT THE TIME THINK THERE WAS LIKE PRIVATE AMBULANCE COMPANY THERE NUMEROUS FIRE TRUCKS REALLY DIDNT SEE ANY OTHER PEOPLE IN THE AREA ANY EMS OFFICERS AROUND THAT YOU RECOGNIZED

7 YES THERE WA CAPTAIN OVER THERE THERE WAS BRUCE MEDJUCK HE WAS THERE HES NICE GUY GOOD PEOPLE YOU REMEMBER THE CAPTAINS NAME OKAY HER FIRST WORDS OUT OF HER MOUTH WERE WHERES YOUR TRIAGE TAGS WHERES YOUR TRIAGE TAGS THERE WERE PEOPLE WALKING AROUND WITH THEIR GREEN TAGS ON AND JUST LOOKED AT HER AND SAID ARE YOU KIDDING ME SAID THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE JUST GETTING OUT OF HERE GET OUT OF THE SITE THE BUILDINGS DIDNT COME DOWN YET BUT IT WAS STILL DEBRIS AND EVERYTHING ELSE COMING DOWN IN THE AREA FROM THE PLANE AND FUEL SO WE JUST GRABBED OUR FIRST PATIENT THE BURN PATIENT THE BURN PATIENT RIGHT THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT WE GRABBED WITH HER FRIEND THAT WALKED DOWN THE FLIGHTS FEEL THEYRE GOING TO FIND LOT OF PEOPLE WITH TRIAGE TAGS ON WITH GREENS ON THEM THAT BECAUSE OF SO CALLED PEOPLE FOLLOWING PROTOCOL THAT WAS BASICALLY MADE FOR THINK JUST LIKE REGULAR PLANE CRASH SOMEWHERE IN FIELD SOMEWHERE IN THE OCEAN

8 BUT DONT KNOW LIKE SAID YOURE GOING TO FIND LOT OF PEOPLE DEAD WITH GREEN TRIAGE TAGS AROUND THEIR NECK AFTER YOU GOT THE BURN PATIENT TO ST VINCENTS DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT ROUTE YOU CAME BACK TO THE SCENE ON YES YOU BROADWAY CAME DOWN BROADWAY SHOT DOWN BROADWAY YES DOWN REGULAR BROADWAY DO YOU REMEMBER WHERE YOU CAME WEST BACK INTO THE SITE YES IM NOT SURE EXACTLY DID SOME FENAGLING TO GET YOU KNOW LIKE WENT UP ONE BLOCK AND DOWN ANOTHER JUST TO GET BACK TO THE SAME SITE AGAIN BACK TO FULTON AND CHURCH YES THATS WHEN THE FIRST BUILDING CAME DOWN YES RIGHT AS YOU GOT BACK DOWN THERE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES LATER WHEN WE STARTED TREATING SOME OTHER PEOPLE THERE WAS ONE PERSON THAT SOUNDED LIKE SHE WAS HAVING AN MI BECAUSE SHE HAD

9 WALKED IT WA AN ELDERLY WOMAN SHE HAD WALKED DOWN 80 SOME FLIGHTS ALSO WE HAD JUST PUT HER ON THE STRETCHER ACTUALLY AND THATS WHEN PEOPLE LOOKED UP AND STARTED SCREAMING AND WE LOOKED UP AND THATS WHEN THE FIRST ONE CAME DOWN WE PULLED THE STRETCHER AS FAR AS WE COULD WITH HER ON IT YOU KNOW GET HER OUT OF THE WAY THEN WE FOUND OUT LATER THOUGH THAT SHE WAS ALL RIGHT SHE GOT UP OUT OF THE STRETCHER ALSO SHE SEEN GOD GUESS SEEN THE LIGHT SO AFTER THE FIRST COLLAPSE YOU TOOK ANOTHER LOAD OF PATIENTS UP TO ST VINCENTS YES DID YOU COME BACK THE SAME WAY DOWN BROADWAY AGAIN THE SAME WAY AGAIN YES WAS STOPPED BY CHIEF FORGOT TO MENTION THAT TOO BUT HE ASKED ME TO THIS IS THE THIRD TIME IM GOING IN THE SECOND ONE JUST CAME DOWN HE ASKED ME TO PULL OVER TO THE SIDE HE WAS SETTING UP TRIAGE IT WAS LIKE FIVE BLOCKS AWAY HE HAD THREE AMBULANCES AT THE SIDE SAID HOW MANY PATIENTS YOU GOT HE GOES ONE SO KIND OF CURSED HIM OUT AND SAID WHAT ARE YOU NUTS AND JUST DROVE RIGHT BACK IN DO YOU REMEMBER WHERE ON BROADWAY THAT WAS

10 10 NO HAVE RIO IDEA DO YOU REMEMBER WHO THE CHIEF WAS SOME YOUNG GUY IM NOT SURE WHEN YOU GOT OVER TO WEST AND VESEY ANY IDEA WHAT TIME THAT WAS THAT WAS AFTER THE SECOND YES THAT WAS ABOUT AN HOUR AFTER THAT BECAUSE WAS LOOKING AROUND FOR MY PARTNERS DOWN ABOUT AN HOUR AFTER THE SECOND TOWER CAME YES THEN WAS JUST PHYSICALLY EXHAUSTED AND HAD PROBLEMS SEEING COUGHING MY KNEES WERE KILLING ME OKAY ANYTHING ELSE YOUD LIKE TO ADD NO IVE PRETTY MUCH SAID EVERYTHING THANK YOU LIEUTENANT RADENBERG THANK YOU THE TIME IS NOW 0659 HOURS AND THE INTERVIEW IS CONCLUDED

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