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University of California, Irvine Nature of Law

What is a law? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Napoleonic Code Which are these behaviors are illegal? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class

What is a law? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Napoleonic Code Which are these behaviors are illegal? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class

What is a law? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Napoleonic Code Which are these behaviors are illegal? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class

What is a law? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Napoleonic Code Which are these behaviors are illegal? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class

What is a law? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Napoleonic Code Which are these behaviors are illegal? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class

What is a law? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Napoleonic Code Which are these behaviors are illegal? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class

What is a law? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Napoleonic Code Which are these behaviors are illegal? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class

What is a law? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Napoleonic Code Which are these behaviors are illegal? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class

What is immoral? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Which of these behaviors are immoral? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class c Kevin Zollman

What is immoral? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Which of these behaviors are immoral? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class c Kevin Zollman

What is immoral? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Which of these behaviors are immoral? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class c Kevin Zollman

What is immoral? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Which of these behaviors are immoral? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class c Kevin Zollman

What is immoral? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Which of these behaviors are immoral? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class c Kevin Zollman

What is immoral? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Which of these behaviors are immoral? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class c Kevin Zollman

What is immoral? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Which of these behaviors are immoral? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class c Kevin Zollman

What is immoral? Law and Morality Natural Law Theory Which of these behaviors are immoral? Cold blooded murder Violating a contract Lying in order to sell someone something Gambling Adultery Disrupting a class Lying to a friend for no reason Skipping class c Kevin Zollman

Natural Law Theory Law and Morality Natural Law Theory St. Augustine What is the relationship between morality and law? Many think they are different. Natural law theory equates the two (or at least requires that law be moral).

Natural Law Theory Law and Morality Natural Law Theory St. Augustine What is the relationship between morality and law? Many think they are different. Natural law theory equates the two (or at least requires that law be moral).

Natural Law Theory Law and Morality Natural Law Theory St. Augustine What is the relationship between morality and law? Many think they are different. Natural law theory equates the two (or at least requires that law be moral).

St. Augustine Law and Morality Natural Law Theory St. Augustine Lex iniusta non est lex Unjust Law is not law St. Augustine

William Blackstone Law and Morality Natural Law Theory William Blackstone Human created law derives its authority from God (or morality). Human created law that contradicts God s law (or the moral law) has no authority. A law without any authority is no law at all.

William Blackstone Law and Morality Natural Law Theory William Blackstone Human created law derives its authority from God (or morality). Human created law that contradicts God s law (or the moral law) has no authority. A law without any authority is no law at all.

William Blackstone Law and Morality Natural Law Theory William Blackstone Human created law derives its authority from God (or morality). Human created law that contradicts God s law (or the moral law) has no authority. A law without any authority is no law at all.

Separating Law and Morality John Austin The existence of law is one thing; its merit or demerit another...a law which actually exists, is a law, though we happen to dislike it, or though it vary from the text, by which we regulate our approbation and disapprobabation.

Two questions Two Separate Questions: Is some behavior illegal? This is a factual question. Given a proper understanding of law, we investigate it like any other fact. Is that behavior immoral? This is a moral or religious question. Some say it is investigated differently. This is called the separability thesis.

Two questions Two Separate Questions: Is some behavior illegal? This is a factual question. Given a proper understanding of law, we investigate it like any other fact. Is that behavior immoral? This is a moral or religious question. Some say it is investigated differently. This is called the separability thesis.

Two questions Two Separate Questions: Is some behavior illegal? This is a factual question. Given a proper understanding of law, we investigate it like any other fact. Is that behavior immoral? This is a moral or religious question. Some say it is investigated differently. This is called the separability thesis.

Two questions Two Separate Questions: Is some behavior illegal? This is a factual question. Given a proper understanding of law, we investigate it like any other fact. Is that behavior immoral? This is a moral or religious question. Some say it is investigated differently. This is called the separability thesis.

Two questions Two Separate Questions: Is some behavior illegal? This is a factual question. Given a proper understanding of law, we investigate it like any other fact. Is that behavior immoral? This is a moral or religious question. Some say it is investigated differently. This is called the separability thesis.

Two questions Two Separate Questions: Is some behavior illegal? This is a factual question. Given a proper understanding of law, we investigate it like any other fact. Is that behavior immoral? This is a moral or religious question. Some say it is investigated differently. This is called the separability thesis.

Two questions Two Separate Questions: Is some behavior illegal? This is a factual question. Given a proper understanding of law, we investigate it like any other fact. Is that behavior immoral? This is a moral or religious question. Some say it is investigated differently. This is called the separability thesis.

Answering the first... How then do we decide what is a law? We need a definition of law so that we can answer this question. Say I move to a new state, and I want to know if my home poker game is legal. How do I figure this out? Now answer this more generally, what counts as a law regardless of the country, state, or time?

Answering the first... How then do we decide what is a law? We need a definition of law so that we can answer this question. Say I move to a new state, and I want to know if my home poker game is legal. How do I figure this out? Now answer this more generally, what counts as a law regardless of the country, state, or time?

Answering the first... How then do we decide what is a law? We need a definition of law so that we can answer this question. Say I move to a new state, and I want to know if my home poker game is legal. How do I figure this out? Now answer this more generally, what counts as a law regardless of the country, state, or time?

Answering the first... How then do we decide what is a law? We need a definition of law so that we can answer this question. Say I move to a new state, and I want to know if my home poker game is legal. How do I figure this out? Now answer this more generally, what counts as a law regardless of the country, state, or time?

Distinctions We want to be able to distinguish law from other similar social institutions: Custom/Conventions Rules of organizations Rules of morality Religious commands Anything else

Distinctions We want to be able to distinguish law from other similar social institutions: Custom/Conventions Rules of organizations Rules of morality Religious commands Anything else

Distinctions We want to be able to distinguish law from other similar social institutions: Custom/Conventions Rules of organizations Rules of morality Religious commands Anything else

Distinctions We want to be able to distinguish law from other similar social institutions: Custom/Conventions Rules of organizations Rules of morality Religious commands Anything else

Distinctions We want to be able to distinguish law from other similar social institutions: Custom/Conventions Rules of organizations Rules of morality Religious commands Anything else

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. c Scott Sandars

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. A command is an expression of a desire directed at another person. Commands most come from someone (or some group). This means laws must have a source.

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. A command is an expression of a desire directed at another person. Commands most come from someone (or some group). This means laws must have a source.

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. A command is an expression of a desire directed at another person. Commands most come from someone (or some group). This means laws must have a source.

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. In order to be a command, it must have some force. One must distinguish between: Gee, I would really like you to..., and Do... Austin says the difference is the threat of some negative consequence.

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. In order to be a command, it must have some force. One must distinguish between: Gee, I would really like you to..., and Do... Austin says the difference is the threat of some negative consequence.

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. In order to be a command, it must have some force. One must distinguish between: Gee, I would really like you to..., and Do... Austin says the difference is the threat of some negative consequence.

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. In order to be a command, it must have some force. One must distinguish between: Gee, I would really like you to..., and Do... Austin says the difference is the threat of some negative consequence.

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. One can make two commands Particular: go to the store. General: be nice to your TAs. Only general commands count as laws

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. One can make two commands Particular: go to the store. General: be nice to your TAs. Only general commands count as laws

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. One can make two commands Particular: go to the store. General: be nice to your TAs. Only general commands count as laws

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. Not all commands are laws. In order to be a law, the command must come from the appropriate source. In monarchies, this is easy. Other forms of government maybe its more difficult.

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. Not all commands are laws. In order to be a law, the command must come from the appropriate source. In monarchies, this is easy. Other forms of government maybe its more difficult.

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. Not all commands are laws. In order to be a law, the command must come from the appropriate source. In monarchies, this is easy. Other forms of government maybe its more difficult.

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. Generally, a sovereign is someone who is habitually obeyed by most of the population. Also, the sovereign must obey no one else, otherwise they are just the sovereign s agent. Any problems with this?

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. Generally, a sovereign is someone who is habitually obeyed by most of the population. Also, the sovereign must obey no one else, otherwise they are just the sovereign s agent. Any problems with this?

Austin s Definition Law for Austin Something is a law if and only if it is a general command of a sovereign backed by a threat if it is not followed. Generally, a sovereign is someone who is habitually obeyed by most of the population. Also, the sovereign must obey no one else, otherwise they are just the sovereign s agent. Any problems with this?