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PEER REVIEW HISTORY BMJ Open publishes all reviews undertaken for accepted manuscripts. Reviewers are asked to complete a checklist review form (see an example) and are provided with free text boxes to elaborate on their assessment. These free text comments are reproduced below. Some articles will have been accepted based in part or entirely on reviews undertaken for other BMJ Group journals. These will be reproduced where possible. ARTICLE DETAILS TITLE (PROVISIONAL) AUTHORS Those who can, teach. Assessing medical students perception of a finals revision program delivered by foundation and core trainees. Mole, Guy ; Gillespie, Liam VERSION 1 - REVIEW Bruno Rushforth GP and Clinical Research Fellow in Primary Care Leeds Institute of Health Sciences University of Leeds UK Statement of competing interests: No known competing interests. 09-Jul-2012 THE STUDY RESULTS & CONCLUSIONS 1. The title describes the study as 'A comparative analysis of senior vs junior doctor teaching of medical students'. However, the abstract describes the objective as, 'To see whether teaching of medical students by junior doctors is a useful adjunct to the undergraduate course.' 2. It is not clear from the text what teaching sessions were undertaken by the senior doctors, and therefore how a meaningful direct comparison could be made (there is reference to participants being asked to 'compare 16 weeks of teaching provided by their medical school with a concurrent programme provided by a team of junior doctors' but further details on the former would be helpful to the reader). 3. It is unclear how many participants (medical students) were subject to each part of the junior doctor teaching programme. 4. The teaching by the junior doctors appears to have been a well thought out finals revision package comprising lectures, bedside teaching and clinical skills practice, together with a formative OSCE. This appears to have been delivered by a small team of enthusiastic junior doctors. Generalisability from the results of the questionnaires completed by participants (learners) regarding the usefullnes / teaching ability of this small group of self-selecting junior teachers is therefore highly limited. 5. There appear to be several comparisons made, both between juniors and seniors and between different aspects of the juniors' teaching. It is not clear that the analyses presented were decided upon prior to data collection. 6. The methods section for the article summary makes no mention of a comparison. 7. Ordinal data are presented but use of the mean (as usually applied to continuous data) is employed. 1. The results show that the teaching by the junior doctor team was well received by the learners. However, due to a lack of detail about the teaching provided by the senior doctors, it is difficult to have

REPORTING & ETHICS GENERAL COMMENTS confidence that the results answered the research question (comparison of junior vs senior doctor teaching). 2. The authors suggest that their results may support the idea that near-peer teaching provides an informal environment which is advantageous to learning, yet they claim that didactic (lecturebased) teaching, which is conventionally more formal than, say, small group teaching, may be the best use to utilise junior doctor teachers. Would be helpful to have a comment regarding ethical considerations (e.g. was ethical approval sought for the study and if not, explain why not) Suggest rewrite the article around how medical students value a structured teaching programme for finals provided by a team of motivated junior doctors. Dr Joe Rosenthal Senior Lecturer in General Practice & Sub-Dean for Community Based Teaching UCL Medical School Royal Free Campus Rowland Hill Street London NW3 2PF 15-Jul-2012 GENERAL COMMENTS Manuscript ID: bmopen-2012-001544 Title: Those who can..teach. A comparative analysis of junior vs.senior doctor teaching of medical students Thank you for asking me to review this paper reporting the evaluation of a programme of undergraduate teaching delivered by junior doctors This is a topical area given the recent surge in such programmes not least related to the need for juniors to demonstrate involvement in organizing teaching programmes as part of their job applications, The title and objectives of the study are clear. The paper is clearly presented and readable. The figures and tables presented are also clear and concise. The methodology seems appropriate and the response rate was reasonable. The issues raised are relevant and the authors make valid conclusions and recommendations based on results found. Junior doctors make up a significant proportion of NHS staff and have very relevant experience. It therefore seems entirely appropriate that they should contribute to undergraduate teaching. Developing teaching skills is also a recognised aim of their own training and suitably supported and supervised undergraduate teaching seems an ideal way to develop their confidence and competence as teachers. This is a development which should be encouraged by medical schools and trusts as long as suitable training is provided for teachers and programme quality is continually monitored. I feel that this paper is worthy of publication and should stimulate further discussion, research and development in this area.

VERSION 1 AUTHOR RESPONSE Many thanks for taking the time to read the manuscript and your comments. We have attempted to respond to each point raised: 1) We felt that the two were not mutually exclusive as the aim of the paper was originally to see if the teaching program that we had designed and implemented was regarded as useful. One of the tools that we decided on before undertaking the course was to ask how this compared to the teaching provided by the medical school which was always given by Consultants or Registrars. 2) The lecture program provided in terms of senior teaching was actually extremely similar to the junior-led program. The medical school also provided one session a week on a key subject such as Cardiology or Emergency presentations as we did. Therefore there were the same number of sessions in the term (16) from both juniors and seniors with sessions lasting roughly the same time with similar headings and remits. The bedside teaching was a less direct comparison as whilst the juniors were encouraged to set aside an hour for a bedside teaching session senior teaching would in general have been more opportunistic. The medical school did also run sessions in the clinical skills lab using the same equipment so again this would have been a fairly direct comparison. Whilst we feel that due to the similarities between the two programs meaningful comparisons can we made we have highlighted the differences as a means of qualifying and not overstating the findings. 3. The total number of students in the year was 106. 94 of these undertook the "mock" OSCE. Although the lectures were undertaken at all centres feedback was only collected from the University Teaching Hospital and had an average attendance of 21 although these students would vary as they rotated around the six centres. 4. There is no doubt that as a group we were enthusiastic and self-selecting furthermore the authors had the advantage of having been to the medical school and therefore knowing the syllabus. Having said that we know anecdotally that similar programs are running at other medical schools and indeed we have been contacted by many of the students who underwent the program for advice on how they can set up a similar program in the trusts where they are doing their foundation programs. Many junior doctors contributed to the, lectures, bedside teaching, and mock OSCE examination. Therefore although the program was designed and overseen by a small self selected group, over two-thirds of the FY1s at the hospital contributed to the program either by lecture, bedside teaching or OSCE. This highlights that with appropriate support, which could come from a medical school, a large section of the junior doctors employed by a trust can make a valid contribution. In total 53 of the 79 FY1s contributed something to the program. 5. The feedback forms were designed to compare junior to senior teaching. The original draft of the paper unfortunately had not made this clear in the methods or explained that although not designed as a randomised controlled trial that the two programs did mirror each other quite closely. We have attempted to address this is issue in re-writing the manuscript. The findings supported those of a previous paper from Manchester which directly compared junior vs senior teaching. 6. We agree that the methods did not go into sufficient detail in explaining the course provided by senior teachers and hence why a direct comparison was made. We have attempted to address this in the second draft. 7. We agree that the median is the normally the best measure of central tendency with ordinal data, however due to nearly all the scores being 4 or 5 we felt that the median would have been more misleading as it could only have been 4, 4.5 (unlikely) or 5 and would make the differences between the categories seem larger than in fact they were, or show no difference eg. the median being 5 for both, when in fact there was a difference. As far as we are aware the median is valid for ordinal data but not usually used. 1. There is no doubt that the most robust conclusion from the study was that the junior doctor teaching program was well received. Also the methods section in the original draft failed to adequately outline the programme offered by the medical school, and this section has been rewritten to better describe this and to explain the manner in which comparison can be made. We have also clarified the research question, that it is a comparison of the students perception of the usefulness of junior vs

senior led teaching programme. We have attempted to qualify the findings in terms of a comparison so as not to overstate the findings in this regard but feel that these findings are valid and worthy of discussion. 2. The idea that near-peer teaching may be more beneficial as it is more informal comes from the literature and may not be entirely accurate as our results showed lectures to be more beneficial. The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive however, as it is possible that a lecture, though traditionally a formal learning environment, may when given by a junior be perceived as more informal, which is why one of the components assessed during the didactic section was the approachability of the teacher and how well able they were to answer questions in an accessible manner. We have rewritten this section to make it less misleading, to make clear that it may be the students perception of the teacher as more accessible which aids perceived learning rather than using the contradictory term informal environment to describe what you rightly point is in fact a formal environment. Our study did not look at or answer the question of why the teaching was effective and as Dr Joe Rosenthal has suggested this may be a useful area for future discussion and research. Ethical approval was not sought for this study as on consulting local guidelines we did not feel that this was necessary. There is no doubt that there has been a recent surge in junior teaching programs which is probably in part driven by points given on training applications for having designed them. Whilst our paper has shown they are perceived as useful by students it would be helpful to have some sort of regulation, training and support to maximise the benefit derived for both student and teacher. Lastly we hope that there will be more research into how best to maximise these junior-led programs and what it is about different teaching methods that makes them so effective. Thank you again for reviewing the manuscript and your pertinent analysis of the data. VERSION 2 REVIEW Bruno Rushforth University of Leeds 30-Aug-2012 RESULTS & CONCLUSIONS The authors have worked hard to try and address some of the comments made from a prior review of an earlier draft of the paper. These revisions certainly help clarify to the reader aspects of the study which had been rather opaque before. More details are provided on the content and delivery of the teaching sessions and on those attending. The title is much clearer and the authors give some cogent responses to some of the points made (e.g. why 'formal' lectures may have been perceived as less formal teaching events when led by a junior doctor). The response regarding ethical considerations is credible. However, it still appears to be the case that the robustness of the methods employed, as described in this study, is not adequate to allow the reader to have confidence in drawing meaningful conclusions from the results. For example, the content of the 2 teaching programmes differed and the format of the 2 teaching programmes differed, in addition to the personnel (junior vs senior) delivering the teaching. How representative was the sample of those completing the feedback forms, when many appeared not to attend various sessions? The data analysis using mean scores for ordinal 5-point scores does not appear appropriate. There is no consideration of potential 'noise' in the study of non-programmed teaching by juniors. Suggest major redraft around how medical students value a structured teaching programme for finals delivered by motivated

junior doctors. VERSION 2 AUTHOR RESPONSE We have taken on board the comments with regard to methodological weakness in comparing the teaching program with that from the medical school. As a result we have re-written the manuscript focussing on the results of the questionnaires showing that the teaching was very well received across the board and interestingly it was lectures that seemed to be perceived as most useful by the students. In addition we have have used the median rather than the mean as is standard practice for ordinal data.