Human Resource Interview: An Hour with Margaret Hazlett John C. Bernia Jr. Oakland University Dr. Wells September 23, 2010



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Human Resource Interview 1 Running head: Human Resource Interview Human Resource Interview: An Hour with Margaret Hazlett John C. Bernia Jr. Oakland University Dr. Wells September 23, 2010

Human Resource Interview 2 The greatest teachers I ve ever known work in our profession to serve the needs of students; they are selfless and put the needs of children before their own. Great teachers are always learning and looking for new ways to deliver instruction or improve their practice. Each day, hundreds of adults walk through the front doors of a building operated by Lake Orion Community Schools. Many are teachers, but many serve our district in other capacities. As an Assistant Principal, I work with many of these people who do a wide variety of work. As I get to collaborate with para professionals, custodians, bus drivers, learning support specialists, kitchen workers, staff associates, or technology support, I find so many who work in our school not as a job, but as a profession. These individuals believe their work has a higher purpose, serving the needs of the children in our community. They are always seeking to be more efficient, or to learn more about their work. While they are not certified teachers, I often describe these employees as possessing the soul of a teacher. I spent an hour with the Executive Director of Human Resources for Lake Orion, Margaret Hazlett, and found her to be precisely what I mean when I speak about the soul of a teacher. She is knowledgeable, focused on her own learning, and always seeking new ways to improve. Her work is done to make a strong system to educate children. At no point during our time together did Margaret show a desire to work for her own notoriety. Each of her ideas and answers showed herself to be a professional who puts the needs of our district first. As I prepared for my interview, I brainstormed a number of questions to give the two of us plenty to discuss. As we talked, I found her to be a deep thinker, creative, energetic, and brilliant. The depth of answers she gave made our conversation so rich and interesting that I had moved away from my written questions within the first five minutes. It s safe to say that I learned a great deal in our time together. I found her to be kind and optimistic, and I had no problem feeling comfortable speaking to her.

Human Resource Interview 3 Social Psychology, Margaret s major as an undergraduate student, focuses on how the behavior of a group affects individuals. This work is very similar to systems thinking, a topic she expressed an interest in as we talked. Peter Senge has written considerably on the topic. In his book The Fifth Discipline, he argues we must look into the underlying structures which shape individual actions and create the conditions where types of events become likely (Senge, 42). Margaret s background trains her thinking to examine a system and make assessments of strengths and weaknesses. During our time together, whenever she would talk about any facet of her job and a potential change, she pointed out potential pitfalls, as well as benefits. Her graduate work in Human Resource Development, was completed at Eastern Michigan University, focusing on the non-profit sector. I found it interesting that her passion for creating and implementing strong systems management was coupled with a desire to work in a field where organizations focused on more than a profit. She began her work in volunteer organizations as a job developer and fundraiser for the Judson Center, a group in southeast Michigan dedicated to assisting individuals and families facing challenging circumstances. After years in this work, she decided to move into education, taking on a role in the Holly Area School District before coming to Lake Orion. John Seyfarth, in his book Human Resource Leadership For Effective Schools, writes Human resources is by far the weakest dimension of general management in school systems, but it is potentially the highest value-added management practice" (Seyfarth, 1). My time with Margaret taught me that this statement is not entirely accurate. Rather than viewing human resources as the weakest dimension, I now consider it the department with the lowest profile. Our human resource department is not weak, rather, it is a quiet strength. As Margaret explained to me, the work of her department should be done in such a way that very few realize they exist because of how efficient their operation should be. She characterizes Human Resources as a service business that works with a tough customer. I found it interesting that so much of her job is

Human Resource Interview 4 focused on responding to circumstances that need resolutions quickly. When a position needs to be filled, or something has gone wrong and a contractual issue exists, Margaret must find a solution as quickly as possible. She pointed out that people only call or e- mail her when they need something significant, which is why efficiency is so important. She is organized with her time, carving out segments of her day for responding to e- mails and phone calls, time for appointments, as well as work to take home to stay on top of issues. Her time must be structured, otherwise, her efficiency will slip. Seyfarth s statement is correct in pointing out how high the value of the work of a human resource department is to a district. Hiring high level employees, contributing to positive, productive negotiations, and making sure operations are efficient lend themselves to a strong culture where employees can feel valued. Productivity goes up, and results are better when people feel good about where they work and believe they are significant to the organization they work for. Lake Orion s superintendent, Ken Gutman, is known to say that every school district has high quality people. What separates us, he goes on to point out is that Lake Orion simply has a higher concentration of employees with superior talents. This statement is a compliment to the dedication of our human resource department to recruit and hire the very best people for every position, as well as maintain a strong system to provide feedback. Margaret is serious about finding the best fit to fill every vacancy, no matter how large or small the position. In addition to hiring outstanding people, she also focuses a lot of attention on evaluation of employees. At a recent district workshop, Margaret facilitated discussions about our process to evaluate both tenured and non-tenured staff. This conversation clarified several major components of our procedures, as well as left me (and others I spoke with) feeling encouraged to do an even better job of providing honest feedback to staff. In this conversation, she helped me to realize how important my role in employee evaluations is. My effort is important to helping our system improve.

Human Resource Interview 5 In addition to hiring and evaluating, Margaret is responsible to negotiate with our employee groups and maintain contract language. In today s environment, with an unstable funding source, this facet of her job is vital to our district. She has a fascinating, and in my view, practical, opinion that salary freezes and reductions can only be acceptable for so long. At some point, even with a reduction in funding, employee groups will only make so many concessions. She spends a lot of time looking for solutions that will be acceptable to all bargaining units, and respectful of our current economic reality. Margaret talked about making sure this work will also keep our district competitive with others. She has an awareness of equity theory of motivation, where Seyfarth points out employees compare themselves to people with who they work or who perform the same or similar jobs. An employee who feels that he or she worked harder, but received a smaller reward than another employee will feel unfairly treated and will suffer a loss of motivation (Seyfarth, 85). Margaret explained that we cannot price ourselves out of the market by having our employees contribute too much to health care or take wage cuts that are far more severe than others. Not only will this lead to weaker job performance, but also could cost our district current and future employees. While her job requires her to have command of current issues, she spends a lot of time learning and planning. In our conversation, she said she looks two years ahead in her planning. In looking forward and doing her best to be aware of new ideas, she is reading about metrics and wellness. For me, it was an introduction to the term metrics for human resources. Margaret explained this is a growing and emerging research field that measures efficiency of a human resource department. It is important to measure how long it takes to process paperwork, hire an employee, or how often errors occur. By doing this, Margaret will know how successful her department is. When our topic shifted to wellness, she mentioned to me that our school district can save large amounts of money simply by having healthy employees. Our health

Human Resource Interview 6 insurance payments would be reduced, there will be less need for substitute teachers, and people will be more productive. Some work in human resources involves conflict, something that Margaret said is often rooted in some kind of struggle over power. She indicated that she does all she can to remain calm in these instances, pointing out that by getting excited or emotional, she only moves the disagreement further away from a solution. While I have never been in a contentious meeting with Margaret, I have spoken to more than one person who has reported her strong ability to stay focused, manage details and know just what to say. In the book, School Leadership that Works, the authors call this talent situational awareness and define it as knowing the details and undercurrents in the running of a school and use of the information to address current and potential problems (Marzano, Walters, McNaulty, 60). Her attention to detail and command over facts assist her in finding resolutions and preventing future problems. Building the leadership capacity of our district is something Margaret hopes to work on in the near future. She pointed out that we need to develop leaders for both formal and informal leadership roles across all of our employee groups. Senge writes the organizations that will truly excel in the future will be the organizations that discover how to tap people s commitment and capactiy to learn at all levels of an organization (Senge, 4). I could not agree with her assessment more, I believe this kind of work will only enhance our entire system. I was so inspired by the energy Margaret had as she spoke to me about this idea and saw her as a formal leader of our district who is coming up with ideas to improve our operations. It s clear this is a passion of hers and will benefit me, as well as so many others in Lake Orion. This was an example of how Margaret is not only focused on the efficiency of her department, but also on the future of our school system. Great teachers have a vision, a strong command of what they are doing, and are always seeking ways to do their work in a better way. While she is not a teacher,

Human Resource Interview 7 Margaret Hazlett possesses the attributes of the very best educators in our profession. She works not for herself, but to build a better system and serve as an agent of change. Turning back to School Leadership that Works, the book defines a change agent as someone who is systematically considering new and better ways of doing things (Marzano et al., 45). I learned an incredible amount during our time together. Reflecting on our conversation, I realize how much of our work in schools is a service business. Moreover, the more efficient we become, the more we ll be able to accomplish. Our system is well served because of the work Margaret does, her low profile department yields high results.

Human Resource Interview 8 References Lake Orion Community Schools Central Office Administration. Retrieved September 17, 2010, from http://www.lakeorion.k12.mi.us/administration.htm Marzano, R. J., Waters, T., & McNaulty, B. A. (2005). School Leadership that Works: From Research to Results. Alexandria, VA: ASCD. Senge, P. (1990). The Fifth Discipline: The Art and Practice of the Learning Organization. New York: Doubleday. Seyfarth, John. (1991). Human Resource Leadership for Effective Schools (5th ed.). Boston: Pearson.