BILL C-479 An Act to Amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act (fairness for victims) Mike McCormack, President, Toronto Police Association

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BILL C-479 An Act to Amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act (fairness for victims) Presented By: Mike McCormack, President, Toronto Police Association Thank you for the invitation to speak to you about Bill C-479 on behalf of the 8,000 members of the Toronto Police Association. I appreciate that my time is short, so let me give you an important context for why we support this Bill, although we do have some further suggestions for your consideration. One of our own, Police Constable Michael Sweet, was murdered on March 14, 1980, by Craig Munro. Michael Sweet was only thirty years of age. He was survived by his 29 year old wife and three children aged 1, 4 and 6. All murders are brutal, but the murder of Michael Sweet was particularly brutal and cruel. As he pleaded for his life, Michael Sweet begged Craig Munro to think about his children. Munro did not care. After abusing Constable Sweet even further, Munro let Constable Sweet bleed to death. Craig Munro made a decision that day. The passage of time does not change that decision. Police Constable Sweet s widow, children, parents and brothers and sister s pain and anguish continues to this day. They do not get parole from this suffering. This was a very brutal murder.

-2- Craig Munro already had an extensive criminal record. He was a very dangerous and violent man. He was charged and convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to life imprisonment. Life means life. After 25 years Craig Munro was eligible for parole, but parole does not change the life sentence. What it does however is potentially relieve such an offender from the full consequences of his life sentence and his murderous act. We are all committed to the open court principle. Justice must not only be done, but it must also be seen to be done if our criminal justice system is going to command public respect. The parole system is an integral part of our criminal justice system. It is the back end of the sentencing process. Parole is not a private remedy. Parole is a public remedy and every aspect of the parole system must be as transparent as the rest of the criminal justice system. Murderers like Craig Munro s privacy rights in parole hearings cannot be greater than what they were during his criminal trial proceedings and his sentencing hearing. To the contrary, they should be less because at trial Mr. Munro was presumed innocent. At a parole hearing there is no such presumption quite the opposite. He is a convicted murder. The difference is significant.

-3- Mr. Munro has had three parole hearings February 26, 2009, March 16, 2010 and March 30, 2011. His fourth parole hearing was scheduled for August 2012, but his privileges were revoked on August 20, 2012 because he breached conditions of his unescorted temporary absences, which he should never have received from the Parole Board in the first place. His matter is coming back before the Parole Board in August of 2015. In addressing Bill C-479, let me start with what was proposed section 144.1 when I appeared before the previous committee and now, what I understand is section 140.2. The previous section 144.1 stated that if a transcript of a hearing has been made, a copy of it shall, on written request, be provided by the Board free of charge to the victim, a member of the victim s family or the offender. Let me first tell you what I said last time, and what our concerns were last time, before addressing our further concerns. We have been stunned, as have Michael Sweet s widow and children, over the changing testimony of Craig Munro at each of his parole hearings before different panels of the Parole Board. This has lead to inconsistent and contradictory findings of the Board, placing Craig Munro on the fast track to freedom. But for his

-4- own predictable breaches, he would have been paroled by now. The anguish and despair this causes to Craig Munro s victims is extreme. They see and hear for themselves the lies and deceptions of the different stories Munro tells to different panels of the Parole Board, but the Parole Board does not. In this sense the victims interest and the vigilance victims bring to these types of proceedings to ensure all relevant facts are considered, is the same as the public interest. In our experience, we have never seen a transcript of a Parole Board hearing. We do know that the hearings are recorded. All our attempts to obtain a copy of the audio recordings of Mr. Munro s Parole Board hearings so we could prepare a transcript at our own expense, have been denied to us and the victims on the basis of Mr. Munro s privacy rights. These are public hearings. We were at all three parole hearings. Members of the media were at some of the hearings. There is nothing private about this, nor should there be. So in our respectful view, while we supported this proposed amendment, we felt it could be improved by amending the section to include a copy of the audio recording of the hearing in the event that a transcript is not available. This better reflects the true state of affairs. By only referring to the transcript, you create a gap a loophole. We wanted this fixed.

-5- There should be no limitations placed on obtaining a transcript of a public hearing, and parole hearings are open to the public. We do not know why our recommendation was not accepted, but the new section, section 140.2, causes us serious concern. Section 140.2 gives the Board the authority to delete from any transcript the offender s personal information. Further, why should information discussed or referred to in a transcript of a parole hearing not be publically available for the purposes of the Access to Information Act or the Privacy Act? If Craig Munro wants to be relieved from the consequences of murdering, in cold blood, a police officer, with a young wife and three young children, and be relieved of the consequences of his life sentence, then everything occurring at his parole hearing to justify his release must be as transparent as his criminal trial and his sentencing. Nothing material should be kept from the public. How is this significant benefit to the offender possibly in the public interest? This section now gives the Board the authority to gut and sanitize the transcript. The annual reviews for those offenders convicted of first degree murder causes enormous hardship for the victims. No sooner is one parole hearing over that the victims have to prepare new victim impact statements and confront the person responsible for their loved one s murder. Not to attend the parole hearing for many victims is unthinkable. To do so would amount to abandoning their loved one. Such

-6- a possibility is unspeakable. Unless there is some material change in circumstances, a murderer, sentenced to life, after his or her first post 25 year parole hearing, should not be entitled to another hearing for 5 years, and certainly not less than 3 years. Without going through each section of the Bill, we support extending the period of time between each hearing. We have not had a chance to review the 100 plus offences in Schedule I regarding the meaning of offences involving violence, but in principle, this legislative change is necessary. With respect to proposed section 131(1.1) as it relates to gating applications (that is, keeping the offender in jail beyond the two-thirds statutory release date), we ask that you to consider, for context only, the case of Karla Homolka. She received a 12 year sentence so she reached her statutory release date after 8 years. She was gated and stayed in jail for her full 12 years (to her warrant expiry date). At minimum, extending the review time from 1 year to 2 years is a must, but once you meet the criteria for gating in the first place, after spending so much time in jail to begin with, absent a material change in circumstances, why should the tax payers of Canada pay a dime for a further hearing?

-7- We fully supported the proposed wording of section 140(5.1), (5.2) and (10.1). We have some concerns that the original wording of section 140(5.1) changed from The Board or its designate shall permit a victim or a member of his or her family to attend as an observer to the current version The Board or its designate shall make every effort to fully understand the need of the victim and of the members of his or her family to attend the hearing and witness the proceedings. The right of a victim to attend a parole hearing should be of right, subject only to subsection (4)(a), (b), (c) or (d). We have not had a chance to review the Parliamentary debate to understand why the wording of the section was changed. The over-arching principle, expressed earlier, is that to the extent practicable, parole hearings must be open and transparent. When an offender is seeking a public remedy from the Parole Board, that is, to be released back into the community, the offender cannot be permitted to hide his records under the pretext of privacy interest. If Mr. Munro wants to stay in jail, he can have his privacy. But the moment he seeks parole to be relieved from the consequences of his very public act the murder of a police officer, and be released back into the community, he has no privacy rights. So we fully support the disclosure to the victims stated in proposed section 142 (i), (c), (i), (ii) and (iii).

-8- We also fully support proposed section 140(11), but leave you with this observation. If the victim cannot attend a hearing, they may submit their written and/or video victim impact statement to the Board, but you may consider adding and the Board shall receive it in evidence. So the victim has the option of submitting such a statement, but if the victim so chooses, it is mandatory that the Board receive it into evidence, underscoring its importance. With respect to proposed section 140.1 (offender refusing to attend review hearing or waiving his right to a hearing), let me leave you with this fact scenario: Michael Sweet was a Toronto Police Officer murdered in Toronto in the line of duty. Craig Munro was from Toronto. The trial was in Toronto, but Craig Munro is incarcerated in British Columbia. Michael Sweet s family must fly from Toronto to Vancouver and then travel into BC interior to attend Mr. Munro s parole hearings. This is a very expensive, time consuming and emotionally draining exercise. On one occasion, at the last moment after all the flights and accommodations were booked, we were told that Mr. Munro might seek an adjournment. The point is you may want to consider a separate provision when there is a significant geographical gap between where the victims reside and where the government chooses to incarcerate the prisoner. Victims don t book flights and accommodation and make arrangements

-9- with their employer at the last minute. As you know, the federal government has a program to pick-up the expenses for the victims, so Canadian taxpayers have a right to know that their tax dollars are not being wasted. Offenders convicted of serious criminal offences and who lack empathy and feelings cannot cancel parole hearings at the last minute without consequences. In this regard, victims should be consulted when parole hearings are scheduled and their schedules accommodated to the extent practicable. So if there is a window between April and May and the offender is content with that window, then why not consult with the victims to see if there are times within that window that they cannot attend. Let me end with this. Some opponents to this Bill question the role of victims at parole hearings. Let s be clear about this. No victim asked to be a victim. It was the convicted offender who made the decision to make a particular individual a victim. The offender is the last person with the right to object to victim involvement in the criminal justice system. Further, the unique interest a victim has in these matters ensures that no stone is unturned in furtherance of the truth and justice. No other party has the same interest and perspective as victims do. It is a perspective that must be heard. It may not be determinative, but it is a necessary perspective, along with others, that must be considered. That is very much in the public interest.