Scotia Capital Financials Summit 2004 Réal Raymond President and CEO Toronto, September 14, 2004 Financial Objectives Well on Way to Being Matched Excellent positioning for year end 2004 Objectives Q3 04 YTD Growth in earnings per share 5% to 10% 7% 20% Return on common shareholders' equity 15% to 17% 17% 18% Tier 1 capital ratio 8.75% to 9.50% 9.5% 9.5% Dividend payout ratio (1) 35% to 45% 34% 34% (1) Trailing 4 quarters 2
Change in Net Income 9 MS 04 vs 9 MS 03 NBC Big 5 50% 30% 10% 14.3 28.0 7.9 4.4 8.2 2.9-10% -30% -26.8-50% -70% -90% Net income Revenue Expense PCL -78.3 3 Loan Losses and Provisioning NBC 9M04 Big 5 NBC 9M03 Big 5 Reported losses 1 0.31% 0.12% 0.44% 0.54% Specific provisions 1 0.35% 0.33% 0.45% 0.46% General provision 2 0.94% 0.80% 1.02% 0.92% (1) As % of loans and BAs (2) As % of BIS assets, July 31 4
Sectoral Growth 9 months 2004 Revenue Net Income 35% 33.3 30% 25% 20% 15% 10% 7.9 14.3 9.8 16.3 12.8 20.1 5% 4.0 0% Total P&C Wealth Mgmt Financial Markets 5 Today s Agenda Current business and economic environment in Canada NA s EPS drivers Bank valuation metrics 6
More Challenging Environment Ahead for Banks Bottoming up in loan losses Slackening in personal credit growth Slower rebound in Wealth Management Tougher time for Financial Markets 7 Reversal of Monetary Conditions 10-year Treasury Bonds US Canada 7,0 6,5 6,0 5,5 5,0 4,5 4,0 3,5 3,0 00 01 02 03 04 8
Consumers Debt % of Disposable Income 110% 100% 90% 80% 70% 60% 50% 40% 70 73 76 79 82 85 88 91 94 97 00 03 9 Tougher Market for Investors Performance of equities vs bonds TSE Bond Total Universe 24500 22500 20500 18500 16500 14500 12500 00 01 02 03 04 575 555 535 515 495 475 455 435 415 395 375 10
Canada: Non Financial Businesses 180 160 140 Internally-generated funds * 120 100 80 60 Acquisition of capital assets 40 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 00 01 02 03 04 * Undistributed profits and amortization 11 The Outlook for EPS Growth Revenue enhancement Expense control Risk management Active capital utilization 12
Revenue Growth 9ms04+2003 vs 9ms03+2002 NBC Big 5 30% 25% 25.3 26.7 20% 15% 10% 5% 0% 14.8 9.5 7.4 5.3 5.5 1.3 Total P&C(1) Wealth Mgmt(1) Financial Markets (1) 4 banks excl. Scotia 13 Dominant Position in Quebec Our core market Being #1 or #2 in all markets open to us remains priority Marketshare almost double of closest bank competitor 14
Credit Card Receivables Quebec NBC Foreign banks Canadian banks Banks 190 180 170 160 150 140 130 120 110 100 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 Moving average 1999=100 15 Mutual Funds AUM Quebec NBC Other banks Desjardins Independants Total 145 135 125 115 105 95 85 99Q4 00Q4 01Q4 02Q4 03Q4 Moving average 1999 = 100 16
Business Development: Quebec Initiatives Wealth Management Goal of increasing clients share of wallet Deployment 280 financial planners in high volume branches More than 50 structured products created 17 National Bank Family of Funds Net sales 12 months NA BMO RY TD BNS CM 6 banks Mutual Funds Industry Growth 18.1% 12.8% 8.7% 6.3% 4.2% 1.4% 7.3% 3.8% Results: 108,000 clients assigned to financial planners, 117,000 clients assigned to private bankers $800 M new assets under management coming from outside Bank 18
Revenues NIBT Wealth Management $ Millions Revenus Net income before tax 750 725 700 225 200 175 675 650 625 600 2003 Q2 Q3 Q4 2004 Q2 Q3 150 125 100 75 4 quarter moving average 19 Business Development: Quebec Initiatives P&C Insurance Direct insurance partnership with AXA continues to grow at 15% range 66,000 active car insurance policies, 40% from non-bank clients Ranked in #2 or #3 spot for brand recognition depending on the measure 20
Niche Strategy of National Bank Business Model Financial Markets Partnerships Altamira Network National Bank Financial 21 Quarterly Revenues Financial Markets, Millions $ Quarter Trend Average 4 quarters Growth trend 10% 300 275 250 225 200 175 150 125 00 01 02 03 04 22
Competitive Positioning Equity Issues 4 NBF Net Underwriting ($billions) NBF Market Share 3 2 1 0 2000 2001 2002 2003 YTD - July 2004 # of deals 113 162 196 225 148 (In billions $) 10% 9% 8% 7% 6% 5% 4% 3% 2% 1% 0% Source: National Bank Financial database 23 NBF Retail Outside Quebec AUM Income 45% 40% 35% 30% 25% 20% 15% 10% 5% 0% 37.3 36.7 38.9 30.4 31.1 27.2 28.5 29.4 26.4 22.4 01-Sept 02-Sept 03-June 03-Sept 04-June 24
AUA NBCN Billions $ 40 35 30 25 20 15 10 Oct-00 Oct-01 Oct-02 Oct-03 Jul-04 25 Investment Banking Group New Issuance of Equities Corporate Equity Participation: July 1, 2003 June 30, 2004 300 250 260 257 255 228 224 221 205 200 Number of Deals 150 100 152 149 139 50 0 CIBC NBF BMO TDSI Canaccord RBC Scotia Raymond James Source: National Bank Financial database Dundee Desjardins 26
Partnerships Key Business Development Strategy Nov 2002 Nov 2002 August 2003 May 2002 Nov 2002 May 2001 Jan 2001 Nov 2001 Edward Jones 27 Business Development: Outside Quebec Partnerships $70 M of new loans each month 75,000 new accounts $850 M new loans represents 15% of non credit card personal loans 28
Revitalizing NBC Retail Operations West of Quebec Net Sales July YTD (In millions) Savings Investment products Credit 2004 136 49 130 2003 39 (1) (45) 29 Altamira/Bank Connection Branch distribution of Altamira funds Use of Altamira channel to distribute Bank products Leveraging Altamira brand nationally 30
Efficiency Ratio Bank (%) NBC Big 5 67.0 66.5 66.0 65.5 65.0 64.5 64.0 63.5 66.6 65.9 65.7 65.3 64.9 64.7 9M-02 9M-03 9M-04 31 Risk Management Quality of assets 9MS 2004 Y/E 2003 NBC Big 5 NBC Big 5 Net non-performing 1-0.46% -0.28% -0.38% -0.19% Provisions for loan losses 1 0.35% 0.33% 0.45% 0.46% Gross non-performing 2 12.4% 11.8% 13.0% 15.7% (1) As % of loans and BAs (2) As % of tangible equity 32
Growth and Volatility Financial Markets Revenue 25% Volatility 20% 15% 10% Total BIG 5 Individual Banks NBC 5% -10% -5% 0% 5% 10% 15% Trend Growth 2000/04 33 Capital Management 34
Capital Efficiency BIS assets as a % of book (left scale) Revenues as % adjusted BIS assets 65% 7,4% 60% 6,8% 55% 6,2% 50% 5,6% 45% 99 00 01 02 03 04 5,0% Adjusted BIS assets equal BIS assets plus 12.5x gross goodwill and intangibles from acquisitions 35 Capital Sources and Uses 2000-04, Millions $ Net income available 2,532 Reduction BIS assets 255 Increased goodwill -258 Increased tier 1 ratio -595 Redemption preferred, etc. -180 Common dividends Repurchases net of issues -843-808 General reserve -123 36
Tier 1 Capital Ratio NA Big 5 12% 11% 10% 9% 8% 7% 00 01 02 03 04 37 P/E (12 Months Forward) Banks TSE NA 25 23 21 19 17 15 13 11 9 7 5 96 97 98 99 00 01 02 03 04 IBES; 3 months average 38
P/E Discount Banks/TSE vs TSX Na/Banks NA vs Banks 60% 50% 40% 30% 20% 10% 0% 96 97 98 99 00 01 02 03 04 IBES; 3 months average 39 New Reality of Banking Industry Reduced impact of interest rate hikes Stronger balance sheet Better risk management tools Last loan loss cycle stemmed from tech bubble Increased liquidity of the corporate sector 40
New Reality of Banking Industry Reduced impact of interest rates hikes Stronger balance sheet Better risk management tools Last loan loss cycle stemmed from tech bubble Increased liquidity of the corporate sector In summary: Banks have been an excellent pick relative to the market during the past five years National Bank certainly deserves a closer look 41 Q&A Réal Raymond President and CEO Toronto, September 14, 2004 42
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