1 1 SID: My guest has such an anointing, such a presence on her life that the spiritual scales will literally come off of your eyes, and many of you will see angels for the first time. Is there a supernatural dimension, a world beyond the one we know? Is there life after death? Do angels exist? Can our dreams contain messages from Heaven? Can we tap into ancient secrets of the supernatural? Are healing miracles real? Sid Roth has spent over 35 years researching the strange world of the supernatural. Join Sid for this edition of It s Supernatural. SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it s naturally supernatural. And before we went on the air I feel angels. My guest provokes me to jealousy. She sees angels. She told me in the makeup room and around the studio she has been seeing angels. Have you seen many? I mean, tell me, you say, I don't know. I just feel them. JUDITH: Just a few. You have a lot here, yes. SID: I sense there are. JUDITH: I think it's because you welcome them. SID: I welcome everything of God according to the Bible. That's where I'm coming from. But you provoke me to jealousy in another area. You had godly parents. Your mother was known for praying for the sick. When you were like eight years of age, a young kid, a doctor's child, had cancer. How bad was it? JUDITH: Well it was very serious cancer. It was a tumor on the bone. And they were going to amputate his leg. And they were taking him to the Mayo Clinic for the amputation. Before he went, my mother prayed. And by the time he got to Mayo Clinic the tumor was gone. And so he never had to have the surgery. SID: Now this being a doctor's child, I imagine a lot of people knew about it. JUDITH: Oh the whole town. It was a small town that I grew up in. SID: Oh then I'm sure. JUDITH: They all knew about it, everybody. SID: But to have that type of heritage, I mean, that is so wonderful. I mean, my heritage is I wasn't even sure there was a God. JUDITH: I know. SID: I didn't know my left hand from my right hand, as it says in the Bible, when it came to spiritual things. But then when you were eight, I think the devil tried to snuff your life out
2 2 because he knew what was going to happen in your future. There was a drunk driver. What happened? JUDITH: Well I was a little girl and I begged my mother to go and see the girls at the prom. So she let me ride my bicycle out to the high school. And I was on my bicycle on the sidewalk and a young man who had been drinking came to the prom. And he first hit me and knocked me off the bicycle and then he ran over me. SID: He did this because he was just panicking? JUDITH: Well he was so drunk. He didn't even realize he hit me. And so they carried me back to my home. And this same doctor came over and said, "Don't drive her the hundred miles to the hospital. She won't make it." And my mother sat beside my bed three days and prayed for me. And on the third day I opened my eyes, and I never had any affects of the accident after that. SID: Now I hate to say this, but Judith keeps provoking me to jealousy. She's in one of my favorite places in Israel, the Garden Tomb. And she had an encounter with God again. But you do know that gentile believers provoke the Jew to jealousy. JUDITH: I do know that. SID: That's your DNA. You're doing a good job. JUDITH: I'm doing a good job. SID: Tell me what happened. JUDITH: Well I was in the Garden Tomb and a group, I won't go into the whole story, but I was young woman seeking God. I was in my late 20s. And this woman asked me if she could pray for me. And it's the first time I really saw the light of God so powerfully on a person. And I thought it was just this one woman that wanted to pray for me, but she was part of a tour group and they were all spirit filled. SID: Wait a second, when you say the light of God, explain to me exactly what you saw. JUDITH: It was a light coming out of her and in her eyes. SID: Is was sort of like those ancient pictures of Jesus and the apostles, and they have like a light over them, a halo or something? JUDITH: Yes. It's like glory. I don't know what to call it. SID: And you could actually see that. JUDITH: I could see it that day. And when I said yes to the prayer, even though I had grown up in a Christian home, I needed more. I said yes to the prayer, and she called 40 people over that
3 3 were on a tour group. And they were all spirit filled, and they were just reaching for me because they couldn't wait to pray for me. SID: Now sometimes that's not a good spirit. But it was good for you. JUDITH: It scared me though. And they started praying for me to have a deeper experience with God. And within a matter, I don't know, of a few minutes I was lifted out of my body. And the next thing I knew I was in, I don't know what to call it, it was another realm. And I heard God's voice, and He called my name. He said, "Judith." And none of these people knew my name, so I knew it wasn't a person calling my name. And I said, "Yes Lord." And He said, "I love you." He said, "I have always loved you." He said, "You are mine." And I heard these wonderful angelic songs and I saw this brilliant light. It was just an incredible experience. And when I opened my eyes, I don't know how long I was that way, but they were all gone. I don't know. I must have been there for a long time standing or wherever I was. And they were gone. And from that time on SID: You had an experience with the love of God. That's what that tells me. JUDITH: Well I read something in one of your books. You said something about liquid love. It's like I felt something poured out on my head and it came down over my body, and I've never felt God's absence since then. It's like something came, His presence came to me in such a supernatural way. It wasn't just an experience that was wonderful. It's like since that time on He's been just right with me, and I know He's there. SID: And then she went back to Jerusalem and actually worked at the Garden Tomb. But when it closed she would go into the tomb and she would pray. But then she started having experiences with angels and angelic music. Tell me about it. JUDITH: I would be drawn into the tomb and I would sit in the outer chamber. You know, there's two rooms at the Garden Tomb, one where the body of Jesus was, and then a little outer chamber, and wealthy people tended to have those tombs. When I would go to sit in the outer chamber and pray angels would be there. They keep their presence there to make it sacred. I would hear the heavenly voices of angels and the instruments that they use, and they're not of this world. They're very different. SID: I assume you're not a musician. JUDITH: I am a musician, actually. SID: You are. So when you say they're not of this world, you know what you're talking about. JUDITH: I yes. I play several instruments and my son is a musician, my mother was a musician. It's not of this world. And the harmonies of the angels singing when they worship God is not of this world.
4 4 SID: When we come back I want you to talk about angels that accompany us to protect us. I can tell you as a fact two things. I can tell you, number one, I wouldn't be here right now if I didn't have angelic protection, and number two, someone's back and neck has just been healed. Take it. It's yours. Don't go away. We ll be right back to It s Supernatural. [pause] We now return to It s Supernatural. SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Judith MacNutt and we're talking about angels, and here's the most amazing thing. When Judith teaches about angels and talks about angels people that have never seen them or felt them, or experienced them start seeing them, feeling them and experiencing them. Angels protect us. I mean, I know wouldn't be here right this minute without an angel protecting me. JUDITH: That's true. SID: But tell me about the time you were in Israel and you went to the florist shop. JUDITH: Oh yeah. God has saved my life so many times, and that was one of them. My friend and I were in the old city we called Old Jerusalem, and we were going into the new city for a prayer meeting. And I was walking with a friend to meet Lynn, my friend at the florist shop. And I kept hearing this voice say, "Don't go there. Stop. Don't go there." And it became more and more insistent. Don't go there. And so finally, I said, we weren't too far from the florist shop when I finally told my friend, "I don't think we're supposed to go there." And he said, let's pray. So we joined hands and we started praying. Within a few moments a bomb went off, and the bomb was in the florist shop, and we would have been standing right in front of the florist shop. And it killed everyone in the area. I mean, it was just a horrible scene. And of course, my heart went out to all those people. But then I thought my friend who was always on time, I was sure she was there. I was always late. She was always on time. And he said, "If God warned you he would have told her, too." And so we went to the prayer meeting and she was at the prayer meeting. And I said, "Why didn't you go to the florist?" And she said, "I just kept hearing this voice tell me don't go there." And she listened the first time. She was always very obedient. SID: Tell me about healing angels. There are actually angels and that's their assignment? JUDITH: Well the way we understand it, Sid, is there's healing angels. There's angels that protect us and there's angels that are in spiritual warfare, engaged in spiritual warfare. We have a healing ministry of course. So we see angels all the time and their prayer ministers see them all the time.
5 5 SID: Okay. Tell me about the time you had uterine cancer and the healing angel. JUDITH: Yes. I was diagnosed. They told me, I was only 28 years old, they told me I would have to have a hysterectomy. I wanted to marry. I wanted to have children. And I heard that Francis MacNutt was in town. And so my friend and I went to a little home prayer group that night where he was praying. And I was seated in a chair, and he had his hand on my head praying for God to heal me. And there was only five or six of us there. And I was sitting in the chair and my head kept going back on the back of the chair. And I felt like he was pressing too hard on my head. So I opened my eyes to ask him to not press so hard. And he had moved. He was standing across the room with his arms held up praying, and there was no one with a hand on my head. And so I knew it was an angel. And I literally couldn't get out of the chair for a long time. I was held into the chair while God's healing power just went through my body. And the next day I went to the surgeon that was going to do the surgery over in Tampa. And he examined me, and he said, "You've been totally and completely healed. There's no cancer." SID: That is neat. That didn't even take faith on your part. I like that. JUDITH: I know. SID: I pray that healing angels show up sometime while we're speaking. JUDITH: Well what was so wonderful to me about that story is we did marry later, and we have two amazingly wonderful children. SID: Very briefly, tell me about that sign you saw of the three angels, so you knew you were supposed to marry Francis. JUDITH: Well we were at a retreat center because we both needed to be there. It was God's will. And we were praying in our room together, and three angels came into the home while we were praying. And one of them leaned over next to him and said something to him, and I just knew that he had heard. And so when we finished praying I said, "Did you hear?" I didn't tell him about the angels. He said, "No, not yet." And he went up to the chapel and got on his face before God, and he said, "I'm not going to move until I know what I'm supposed to do." And then he heard it, that he was meant to marry and to take me as his wife. SID: Tell me about that conference you were at and literally the room changed. JUDITH: That was an extraordinary. I actually have that in writing from several people. We were in a conference. This has happened many times all around the world. We were in a conference and the whole back of the room disappeared. We were having a healing service. SID: But you were not the only one that saw this. JUDITH: Oh no, no. At least six or seven, or eight people turned in, wrote it down that they had seen this. And Jesus, a golden staircase came in. It's like the room just vanished and this golden staircase, and Jesus came into the room followed by just hundreds of angels. And Jesus went
6 6 over to every person that was sick and laid his hands on them. And when he walked away an angel would come and take his place, and stay with that person. And we had so many healings. SID: That's what I was going to ask you. It's wonderful the angels prayed. But what is the fruit? That's what people are asking. JUDITH: Tremendous healing. We had cancer, Parkinson's disease, diabetes. Several people got out of wheelchairs. It was an extraordinary healing service that night. SID: Well I believe as you teach a little bit on angels when we come back, that many of you are going to get healed. I mean, I'm hearing this already. Don't go away. Be right back. [announcement] We'll be back with more of It's Supernatural in just one moment. [pause] We now return to It s Supernatural. SID: Hi. Sid Roth here with Judith MacNutt. And I've asked her to teach just a little bit about angels because literally the spiritual scales come off of people's eyes and they begin to see angels. They begin to feel angels. You'll feel something just tapping your head. It's not a power of suggestion. It's an angel. As a matter of fact, I was talking to Judith and both of us agree that God assigns angels to everyone. And I believe this angel has been waiting for you to speak, and this angel wants to help empower the promises of God in your life. Judith, angels come in three forms primarily. Explain. JUDITH: They do. They come in three different ways. These ways are in Scripture, too. The first one that we talk about is their spiritual bodies. And that's kind of the way they're seen in Scripture. They're very bright, they're very large, they have spiritual bodies. They have glowing, they're like lightening, one description in Scripture. Bright eyes. Just very loving. And they're very large when they come that way. The second way is human form. You know, the Bible says to be careful when we're entertaining strangers, that it might be an angel. Of course we have story after story in the Bible where people show up and they're really angels, but they look like humans. And so those angels are assigned a specific task to protect someone, to help someone. And when they complete that they just disappear right in front of their eyes. They just disappear. SID: By the way, before we get to the third form, tell me about Edna, speaking of disappearing. This is an amazing story. JUDITH: Edna was a wonderful woman. She was in her 70s and she volunteered a year and a half of her time to travel with us to help take care of our children, because we were on the road all the time. One night she was driving. She was alone and she had prayed for protection. But she
7 7 had a flat tire. And she was sitting beside the road. No one was stopping. And she said, "Lord, please send me the help I need." And within seconds, an old rusty pickup truck, she said she couldn't even believe it was moving, pulled up and this very handsome blond, he had on blue jeans and a t-shirt, and these brilliant blue eyes, and a smile, she said, that just knocked you out. And he came over and he never talked to her. He just got down and started changing the tire. And Edna kept looking at him because she just knew there was something special. And she kept saying, I know who you are. And he would look up and smile at her. And then when they finished she tried to get him to talk, and he wouldn't, but he got back in his truck, which was parked right behind her car. And just for effect the truck and the man disappeared. SID: She was like looking at the truck. JUDITH: She was looking at it. SID: I mean, there was no where it could go. JUDITH: No where it could go. It just vanished. And since Edna had that experience I probably have 20, 25 stories of that angel in an old rusty pickup truck that had been turned into me. So he's around. SID: That sounds so exciting to me. Now tell me the third form that angels come. JUDITH: Third form is, like you said a moment ago, we don't see them, but we feel them. They're invisible. But they're right beside us. And we might feel a hand on our shoulder or maybe on our head. If our back is hurting we might feel one just touching us there, and there's no one there. It really is kind of comforting because you can sense a presence. But when a hand is touching you and you can't see it you know it's an angel. SID: I have to tell you. This whole show, I have been sensing the presence of angels. What kind of angels are they? JUDITH: Oh you're sensing healing angels right now. SID: If I was to guess I would have said that. That means you could pray right now and release them over those that are watching. Would you do that right now? JUDITH: I'd be happy to. Lord Jesus, we thank you so much for your presence here. We thank you for all the people that are watching right now, especially those, Lord, that are suffering in their body. Pour in their minds. And Father, we pray now that you release healing angels right into the room where they are. Lord, we pray that they carry that healing power right from you from the very throne you're in, Lord, right into their bodies. And Lord, we just pray for especially going up and down the back right now, spinal problems. SID: I'm hearing "crack" right now. Someone's back is cracking into place.
8 8 JUDITH: It's cracking into place. Scoliosis is one of the problems. And we were sensing this earlier, that God was healing scoliosis. And just it sometimes feels like fire. Sometimes it feels like a coolness. So we just pray, Lord, right now, in your name that all those backs would just come into alignment and all that healing, Lord, that you send with the holy angels will just come in to those that are watching right now. SID: And I am hearing right now there are people with arthritis in their fingers. If you will just move your fingers, you'll see that you walk right into your healing. And hearts, hearts are beating two ways, mended from pain. I'm talking about emotional pain. I'm talking about anguish. You're being set free right now. And others are being set. Someone is getting a new heart right now. And boy is it strong on backs and necks. Are you catching anything more, Judith? JUDITH: Well you when you said that about hearts, I thought of that scripture, Isaiah 61, where he's come to heal the broken hearted. And there's so many people suffering right now watching that have a broken heart. And so Lord, we pray for those broken hearts, Lord, to be healed. You know, because the angels, Sid, brought Jesus comfort. Remember? They brought him comfort and they brought him strength, and he was able to carry on. So we just pray now that those healing angels will bring you the strength, emotional strength and healing of your heart, and your deep mind to experience that peace and renewal. SID: You know my favorite angel story from the Bible is an angel came to Miriam, or Mary. His name was Gabriel. And he announced that she was going to have a supernatural son, Yeshua, Jesus, the Anointed One. And this Anointed One came to live a perfect life as a human and died in your place. And if you will believe to the best of your ability that he died for every sin you've ever committed, he died for every sickness or pain, or emotional hurt, or trauma that you've ever gone through, take that great exchange. Why be imprisoned? Get out of prison. Make Jesus your Messiah and Lord. He's come to set you free. It's up to you. Just choose life. Why won't you die. [announcement] [pause] SID: Next week on It s Supernatural. My guest says when he's hit with things like fear, depression, shame and hopelessness, when he taps into this ancient mystery, 100 out of 100 times these things must leave.